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    Te'mariel Fheydra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
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    How about no.

    How about we all just put the responsibility for the problem right back in the lap of SE where it belongs.

    We all pay the same sub fee and we all should have access to the same features in the game, including housing, without the jumping through hoops to pay rent or log in at a certain time or whatever. When you obtain gear or items, or mounts or minions in the game, do they disappear when you take a break from the game? Of course not. Your character and progression are exactly how you left them whether you log out for a day, a week or a year.

    Housing should be the same way.

    The bottom line is that SE royally screwed up in the very beginning with the housing feature, and they just need to fix it so that everyone in the game has equal access to a plot of land if they want it. If that means instanced housing, so be it. SE has proven that if something is broken beyond repair, they will do whatever it takes to fix it and make it great. Let's see SE give the same treatment to the housing system.
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    Last edited by Velisra; 05-05-2016 at 12:02 AM. Reason: Can we get rid of the 1k character limit already?

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    How is housing and minions related at all? Everyone has an equal opportunity to earn the minion, but once housing plots are full that is the end of the line unless one happens to go inactive and free or one is sold at outrageous prices.

    It would be incredibly simple to make a small amount of money for a rent fee which would provide many benefits. I feel like people with houses in this thread are just happy they got to the plot first, and could care less about anyone else. It's that bias viewpoint which is stopping a lot of people from understanding how much this would help, and how little effort on their part it'd take.

    Invest a bit more thought into it besides "omg they want my money!! omg I can't go inactive and keep an empty plot with my name on it!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnduinLynn View Post
    How is housing and minions related at all? Everyone has an equal opportunity to earn the minion, but once housing plots are full that is the end of the line unless one happens to go inactive and free or one is sold at outrageous prices.
    It seems like you missed my point.

    The point is, if there were housing plots available for everyone from the beginning (like everyone can obtain gear, minions, mounts, etc) then everyone would have an equal opportunity to partake in that part of the game and there would be no issues.

    Again, the bottom line is that SE needs to fix the mess they made with housing so that all players have an equal opportunity to play that part of the game.

    Maybe invest a bit more time to read what I wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnduinLynn View Post
    Invest a bit more thought into it besides "omg they want my money!! omg I can't go inactive and keep an empty plot with my name on it!!"
    The money isn't the issue, it's the annoyance of going to that NPC to pay the rent, keeping track of when you last paid, and that 45 day reclaim is pretty quick to begin with, the 2 week suggestion is horrid.

    Then there's the core of reclamation that shouldn't exist; basing it on game activity instead of account activity. If someone isn't paying to play the game any more, that should be the basis, not going in the front door or talking to a NPC in game. See the thousands of threads on need/greed in dungeon loot. "It's not fair that they get to roll need when I would do something that I think is more important than their glamour/desynth/GC seals. What I think is more important is all that should matter to anyone." This comes down to the same argument, "They aren't using the house the way I think they should, so I deserve it more."
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    "They aren't using the house the way I think they should, so I deserve it more."
    Yeah it all boils down to I DON'T HAVE IT and I WANT YOURS. Pretty sad really. A PAYING SUB is all that should be needed.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 05-05-2016 at 01:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Yeah it all boils down to I DON'T HAVE IT and I WANT YOURS. Pretty sad really. A PAYING SUB is all that should be needed.
    Yeah, if you're completely bias and only see the one side of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    Yeah, if you're completely bias and only see the one side of things.
    Oh really. Let's all take WinterLuna's point of view to heart. Talk about painting the kettle black. No sorry I don't. Direct your frustration against SE and not other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Oh really. Let's all take WinterLuna's point of view to heart. Talk about painting the kettle black. No sorry I don't. Direct your frustration against SE and not other players.
    Yeah, I'm the only one with this opinion. Just me. Nobody else. /eyeroll.

    By the way, I'm not frustrated. I have a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    the 2 week suggestion is horrid.
    That was not a suggestion, you need to reread the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    That was not a suggestion, you need to reread the post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    This is more an activity thing, better than the current 45-day login policy because it actually requires a homeowner to actually do something in-game beyond just logging in.

    ...

    The rate would be simple: 0.1% of the cost of the property every two weeks.
    And you skipped out on the other reasons I listed in that post why it's a bad idea. It's an annoyance for the sake of annoyance to take away someone's house, because one person feels they deserve someone else's house.
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