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    Oohlalaheals's Avatar
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    Omega Anathema
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    White Mage Lv 70

    Entirely useless content?

    As I continue to level multiple alt classes I've come to realize how much of the content in this game is being completely wasted. Guildhests and Trials are my two biggest annoyances here. Guildhests are only good the first time you run them on each class. Even the roulette bonus for them is a joke. Why bother having them then? They are fun, short and simple, I would run them over and over again just like I do the low level dungeons if they gave a decent reward. Same gripe for Trials, they were only good for the initial turn in and now the Trial roulette. I ran Titan the other day thinking it would give me the last few thousand xp I needed to level and it gave me 300. 300?! Why? Have trials and guildhests give as much xp as say, a fate of an equal level, and people would run them all the time. It would give more options to people leveling alts and make it easier for new players to get groups for these things.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    dont forget Leves (only used to level DOH/DOL until 50)
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    Magnificent Steiner
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    I say getting a trial for leveling roulette. I don't know if they changed this, but I remember when I was leveling a dps job I would wait a long time for leveling roulette to pop and once I got into the instance I would be greeted by a normal mode primal trial. I waited like 30mins for a trial!?! And once I completed the trial I barely got any extra xp because there is no trash only the boss.
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I can see why it would be nice to get more rewards for the roulette for Guildhests but they are very short and typically simple, so while a straight xp increase would help it wouldn't make sense to have them be worth too much individually that way. Maybe something that stacks? Say, each extra one you do within 20 or 30 minutes of the first one gives a % increase in reward. Do 10-12 in a row and end up with something pretty decent. Kind of like, oh what's it called, oh yeah, chain xp for mobs. This chain/stacking buff could be good once per day.
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    dont forget Leves (only used to level DOH/DOL until 50)
    there are many reasons to do combat leves, like achievements/selling quest reward items with 50k + etc.
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oohlalaheals View Post
    Guildhests are only good the first time you run them on each class.
    As I see it, Guildhests are supposed to be mini training areas to give you some very scenarios to deal with different styles of mechanics. I don't think they were intended to be run repeatedly because frankly they're all insanely easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oohlalaheals View Post
    They are fun, short and simple, I would run them over and over again just like I do the low level dungeons if they gave a decent reward.
    Which is probably why they don't have a better reward. They're too simple and too quick. The reward we get is pathetic, but at the same time it's proportional to the amount of effort we put in.

    I recently did the Guildhest where you attack the goblins/run up the tree branch and I went in as a White Mage... and spent the entire time in cleric stance. Because everyone avoided the AoEs and the tank grabbed hate/hardly took any damage, I didn't even need to throw out a single heal!

    Quote Originally Posted by Oohlalaheals View Post
    I ran Titan the other day thinking it would give me the last few thousand xp I needed to level and it gave me 300. 300?! Why?
    Also an assumption of mine, but I don't think the trials were ever intended as a way to get exp, it was more for their drops or the challenge of the trial itself. I know it seems unlikely, but Titan did used to be actually be hard once upon a time... (or rather it was a lot less forgiving if people made mistakes).

    Sure they could add more exp to it, but they're not going to want to just give tons of XP for a 5 minute fight (or under 3 minutes if it's Garuda...), everyone would just spam those and the dungeon queue times would really suffer because of it. Not to mention that content is for level 50, it feels wrong if you were able to get from 50 to 60 with a level 50 trial.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oohlalaheals View Post
    It would give more options to people leveling alts and make it easier for new players to get groups for these things.
    Dungeons, fates, beast quests, roulettes are already quite a few options...
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    I run Trial, Leveling, 50, 60 and Expert each day for tomes on my main. I do Leveling and Expert on my alt. The bonuses are fine in my view. Guildheist I would do mostly for the challenge bonus.
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnificent View Post
    I say getting a trial for leveling roulette. I don't know if they changed this, but I remember when I was leveling a dps job I would wait a long time for leveling roulette to pop and once I got into the instance I would be greeted by a normal mode primal trial. I waited like 30mins for a trial!?! And once I completed the trial I barely got any extra xp because there is no trash only the boss.
    Always fun on the first day, you run Expert and Lv60 roulette. And then switch over to another class for leveling and roulette challenge bonus at the same time. Only to be greeted by Garuda. And then you have to run level roulette again or the challenge XP will go to waste.
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    Omi Senu
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    As I see it, Guildhests are supposed to be mini training areas to give you some very scenarios to deal with different styles of mechanics. I don't think they were intended to be run repeatedly because frankly they're all insanely easy.

    Which is probably why they don't have a better reward. They're too simple and too quick. The reward we get is pathetic, but at the same time it's proportional to the amount of effort we put in.
    It has a roulette so you can run it over and over, probably to make sure new players have people to run them with. That's why I like a once per day 20-25 minute stacking bonus for using that roulette. You have to invest the time helping others during that period, and it would be better xp than you get now, but still lower than other content which has more challenge. Either that or some reward for doing some larger number of Guildhests over the lifetime of a character, like a costume or mount or something.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    I agree the experience points from these things needs to increase by 50% for the base level. And by 100% for the roulette.
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