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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamuKun322 View Post
    Now that you mentioned it... there's Lucia.
    INB4...

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    I think the long-lost prince of Ala Mhigo will be the new leader. But it really depends on how he'll be portrayed. He could either want to reinstate the old government or go for something completely different. Either way, I am getting the feeling that Yda is Ala Mhigan, due to her focus in the Ala Mhigan resistance over helping the rest of the Scions.

    Surely, the Ala Mhigan resistance probably have a way to contact each cell and have a leader of some sort?

    I doubt Ilberd will be that leader. Then again he might be able to redeem himself ala Ysayle.

    Raubahn is loyal to Ul'dah and the Sultana, so he can't be the leader, but I can see him supporting a newly liberated Ala Mhigo one or way or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Then again he might be able to redeem himself ala Ysayle.
    There is a huge difference between Ilberd and Ysayle.

    Sorry but I really see no honor in someone that not only kill his own countrymen but also someone that share his same goals, only beacuse that guy was loyal to the WoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamuKun322 View Post
    Now that you mentioned it... there's Lucia.
    Lucia is a -

    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    INB4...

    Damn. Beaten to the punch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Lucia is a -



    Damn. Beaten to the punch.
    Wait...

    Brainwashed young soldier calling one who turned against his tyrannical overlords a traitor...

    Are you calling Garlemald an evil Empire? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Or at least someone like Gaius. Someone who pushes for an end of hostilities between Garlemald and Eorzea in favour of unity so that Ala Mhigo can harbour both Ala Mhigans and Garleans. I feel like that would make for a much more compelling tale overall - because it's been almost three decades since Ala Mhigo was occupied and there's no doubt going to be a lot of people there who don't want the status quo to suddenly change.

    So, in short, something that plays out in a manner similar to how Archades was handled in FFXII would be lovely. That game was very big on intrigue and FFXIV is supposedly inspired by it if I've heard correctly. It certainly appears that way to me at least.
    There is also this that Ethys Pointed out in one of his videos that might be interesting regarding this as well, its worth taking a look.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y69WHbx7Nic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Wait...

    Brainwashed young soldier calling one who turned against his tyrannical overlords a traitor...

    Are you calling Garlemald an evil Empire? :P
    Not at all. Though Cid and Lucia are equally as ridiculous as Finn, incidentally. Each of them are free of any moral complexity and spout nonsense about doing the 'right thing' even though they've turned their backs upon their people and are selling information that will no doubt get many civilians killed.

    Drace's 'betrayal' of Vayne in FFXII was far more realistic. As was Reeve's complex morality back in FF7. Either character would have been an excellent model for Cid and Lucia in an effort to make them more interesting as far as I'm concerned because then they could work with both sides - secretly, if needed - in an effort to avert bloodshed on both sides.

    Or, if not, the least that could be done is to specifically highlight that they're not as pure or righteous as they like to pretend they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    There is also this that Ethys Pointed out in one of his videos that might be interesting regarding this as well, its worth taking a look.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y69WHbx7Nic
    That's interesting! I do hope we get some answers in regards to some of the lingering mysteries soon. Perhaps 3.3 will reveal some answers to the questions brought up often here.
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    Interesting video, but it's highly speculative. Although he acknowledges it, it does require quite a few leaps in logic regarding the current lore. Ones which I might be willing to make under some circumstances, but certainly not ones which make this narrative all that compelling unless you grant them. I'd be very disappointed if he is some manner of half-breed, though (although I might make an exception for an Allagan one ). There are more interesting turns they could take with a pureblood wielding the aether.
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    Is there any actual information on Theodred, or do we just know he exists at the moment? I'd find it kinda interesting if Ilberd turned out to be the heir incognito. Would kinda explain some of his behavior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Not at all. Though Cid and Lucia are equally as ridiculous as Finn, incidentally. Each of them are free of any moral complexity and spout nonsense about doing the 'right thing' even though they've turned their backs upon their people and are selling information that will no doubt get many civilians killed.
    Okay, not exactly part of FFXIV, but the First Order doesn't really have "civilians" and completely wiped out several, inhabited planets without provocation using their superweapon. I get that you like to "root for the empire", but these people murdered billions of men, women, and children in an instant without a second thought.

    I'd also point out that everyone has civilians and Garlemald's government has shown no qualms about wiping entire civilizations off the map if they don't lick their heels. Need I remind you that morality was not a deciding factor in the initial cancellation of Project Meteor? They were perfectly willing to wipe out Eorzea by dropping a moon on it, which would cause those civilian casualties you seem to care so much about, but several times greater.

    And here's the damnedest thing: they did accomplish that goal and did drop the moon on us. If it weren't for Louisoix stopping it preemptively, the realm would be several times worse for wear and Garlemald wouldn't care an iota.

    Considering Cid and Lucia villains for betraying Garlemald because "my country right or wrong" is idiotic. And crying about losing Garlean civilians in a war that Garlemald started is hypocrisy, especially when they themselves shown no qualms about genocide (which is less than can be said of Eorzea, we're not going to slaughter every Garlean down to the last child because this isn't that kind of story).
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    Last edited by RomildaRayne; 05-12-2016 at 12:02 PM.

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