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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]
    still playing? you mean just started playing in 1.19, because thats when i started to even care. I was a long time FFXI player and had hype out the ass for this game, and it turned into garbage. Im barely playing, mainly leveling because its one of the few things thats solid right now. If they started charging right this second, id put it down until 2.0 without even thinking about it, its just not good enough "yet" to pay for it. By 2.0 i think with lots of the major issues (crappy world, terrible server coding issues, smooth UI, lots of new and possible content and features that can only be done in 2.0....ect) il be glad to pay, but until i see those things done, im not going to bother. So don't tell me what i do and don't do.

    @Oni....you cant compare this to buying a bad normal game, because heres the kicker....its subscription based MMO! They ony do as good as the amount of players who are consatntly paying for the game. Do i think what they showed will be good? sure...can i see it right now and have 100% proof it works...nope? Do you buy broken bad games purely based on the devs saying "we will patch it and make it better"...i sure don't nor does most of the people who buy games.

    There is a reason the game is like it is now, having a small community (which will drop off a good bit until next year) and it has all the horrible press it does.
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    Last edited by Enkrateia; 10-29-2011 at 03:27 AM. Reason: inflam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
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    Seriously? Whenever you go buy a game, sometimes it rocks and sometimes it sucks. That's really how things go. You're really in no position to demand your money back or anything, that's just how it is. SE is remaking the game from scratch to save their brand name and try to give the game a 2nd go, instead of trying to just patch it up the best they can.

    It is a hard task and they count on us to tell them if they are heading in the right direction in order to make sure that the re-launch will be as smooth as possible. It is hard work and it would be nice for them to hear some encouragement instead of all the whining and complaining they are used to.
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    Last edited by Enkrateia; 10-29-2011 at 03:26 AM. Reason: inflam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    respect? they sold us a shit product and they are supposed to fix it, this has nothing to do with respect.

    Also plenty of people will be "supporting" the game's "possibilitys" when they start paying monthly fees for the inferior version, with promises of what it can be, with no garuntees.

    This is a business, not a friendship circle.
    Plenty of companies sell shit products and will at no point make them better. Not just in video games, but in any market of the economy. The respect part comes in play when the developer of the product admits its faulty and spends their money to make it better for the consumer.

    They didn't "owe" us anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    Plenty of companies sell shit products and will at no point make them better. Not just in video games, but in any market of the economy. The respect part comes in play when the developer of the product admits its faulty and spends their money to make it better for the consumer.

    They didn't "owe" us anything
    Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    The respect part comes in play when the developer of the product admits its faulty and spends their money to make it better for the consumer.

    They didn't "owe" us anything
    But you can stop making it sound like they're doing all of this out of the goodness of their hearts. They don't want to make sure we feel we got our money's worth, they want to make sure we give them more money. That isn't happening unless they fix it.

    They want money, not love. End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverser View Post
    As paying customers, it is not our responsibility to provide moral support to those providing the product. They already receive our money. They can use that money to receive moral support as they see fit.
    a sports fan would go their teams stadium and see their fav team play, both paying money and respect at the same time :P

    as some1 that only came to the game just before 1.19, i missed all the bad times, i must say i get the final fantasy feel and i only play this MMO for FF feel so. thank you
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    What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandm View Post
    a sports fan would go their teams stadium and see their fav team play, both paying money and respect at the same time :P

    as some1 that only came to the game just before 1.19, i missed all the bad times, i must say i get the final fantasy feel and i only play this MMO for FF feel so. thank you
    They gave us the Following:

    -1.3 years worth of free play
    - 2 months free trial Again for Version 2.0
    -Giving players that own the game a Free Copy of FFXIV 2.0

    That's why I respect SE, and not to mention the communication they have established with the community
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverser View Post
    As paying customers, it is not our responsibility to provide moral support to those providing the product. They already receive our money. They can use that money to receive moral support as they see fit.
    Just out of intrest, how much do you currently pay a month?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverser View Post
    As paying customers, it is not our responsibility to provide moral support to those providing the product. They already receive our money. They can use that money to receive moral support as they see fit.
    That's because of that kind of mentality having a nice society is difficulty. We are talking about the persons developing the game, not the company in its entity as a company.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Rebirth of the Phoenix
    I've been calling it that since they announced it. That's the only fitting title for it! I really hope it lives up to that title, too, haha!
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