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[Animarelic]

Your idea seems novel on paper but you forgot to account for "Burn out" as well. The system is designed to create breaks to prevent burnout that comes with progression and grinding. Only a small percentage of progression players would actually the take time to do anything outside of their groups if your system was in place because if they can clear the turns clean they would just farm them get what they need and still be too busy or burnt to help others who may wipe and impede them from doing other content.

Your concept is built around the idea that Raiders have that time. Concerning your PF issue, I personally raid 4-5 days a week and the last thing I would want to do is join a PF that may waste my free time when I could just get the loot with my team and be done with it. For me there is no incentive to help people on a turn I have no problems clearing when I could be doing something less stressful or something else that piques my interest (crafting, gathering, relic, being social).

[Aodh]

Your idea seems novel on paper but you forgot to account for "Burn out" as well. The system is designed to create breaks to prevent burnout that comes with progression and grinding.

So something like this would be appealing to you? >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abE09-tqhoM

That was the system in 1.0 that was designed to prevent burnout and level the playing field between casual and hardcore players. It was universally hated and removed, instead we get the same type of lockout, only this time focused around gear which is the only way to progress once you're max level.

[Jynx]

It was universally hated and removed.

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It's funny how switching terminology gives the illusion that the system really changed so drastically.

This happened in WoW as well so instead of using the "Lowest" exp gain state as hitting a limit they changed it to make the normal exp curve sound like a bonus and the unrested state to be normal. They basically tuned the basic wording of the system to be more positive instead of negative but still function the same. The lack of a real progression in the leveling process masks this pretty well though it's a far lower curve than almost any MMO I've ever seen so even being in unrested state is a brisk adventure.

1.0 did however have a much larger curve so you could still see where the game "Walled" you to allow others to catch up once you ran out of rested exp.

[Aodh]

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It's funny how switching terminology gives the illusion that the system really changed so drastically.

The difference is more than terminology, since in the only system you couldn't progress without waiting as your EXP gain would go to 0. Now you can still gain EXP, you gain more if you wait but not nearly as much as if you kept playing. Right now, I cannot improve my character as I have to wait for Tuesday, although we'll be trying to down A7S tonight and maybe get something from there. So my only progression choice is to keep dying in A7S till we win. I would like another choice.

[Jynx]

The difference is more than terminology.

Look they are always going to find some way to block your character progression it's just how they decide to dress it up.

1.0 was in flat EXP gains

2.0 Replaced a exp wall with tomestone and loot lockouts.

People don't want to be told they can't keep progressing. It's a primal thing look at how balls popular things like the hunt are where regardless of how hard/long the grind is as long as it gave the promise of progression without giving the player a ultimatum that blocked them from further progression. I just wish they would drop the smoke and mirrors act about hiding the grind and give us more engaging systems instead of the bland gear treadmill.

I'd rather be blocked in progression by the amount of choices I have than to be stone walled but that's just me.