SOS : Fundraising !

[Eydir]

And noone here is against you. If you make money this way, good but consider that it would be better in the end to find a way to make your own gil so you can afford other things, too. You don't need 5 hours a day available to make an income. Sending away retainers to gather mats whilest being at work/school/university/etc already helps. You can either sell those (and some sell pretty damn well, yes I'm sideeying you, deepeye tears) or craft with them to sell those crafts (it really doesn't have to be 2/3 star to make money). This doesn't eat much time and is already a start. Just a few suggestions I can think of spontanously.

[Talamarie]

It would be easy to get someone who puts their name up on such a list banned (in my opinion) by someone seeing the name and checking to see if they are online, heading off to some website and paying $2/$5 or whatever to a gil seller while giving your character name to send/transfer the gil as the receiver. They could then send SE a support message saying they suspect your character of buying gil to which SE 'might' suspend or ban you for it. It is possible they might not but there is a risk there that they might.

I would like to begin my answer with this part. Are you serious ?! Do not take offense plz and let's step out of the subject of the topic for this and focus on the logic of what you said. You do realize that, yes even if here it involve gils, you're overdoing it REALLY too much ? Someone would pay with his own money to get someone else in a bad situation ? They don't have to wait for a topic like this to be created to do that ! Just take the names on the "Marriage Partner Hookup Megathread!" it's a gold mine ! Hell just even go on the Lodestone and type any name you want on the search feed and you can get any random results you want ! Do you see my point here ?

Anyway, back to the topic. People seems to have a problem with the word CLAIM. I agree that it's a little too bluntly wrote like that even if i think that just standing on the word alone is kinda easy to get me (or the topic) on that. A claiming isn't only a vocal declaration guys and you know it. You can claim it by buying it. But i'm gonna change my phrase in my previous post though. Plz also understand guys that i wrote this topic alone basing myself with my view only which is a possibility in the game, a possibility that hasn't received any real attempt of amelioration but only remarks about gathering/crafting and selling to get the money needed.

I already explained myself on these points and i feel frustrated to see that same answer coming again and again. I'm not gonna say "i want to see people willing to try this" even if i wish it but i would like to see people talking about the UP and DOWN of this idea (like the thievery possibility for exemple) instead of talking about the ways to get money or guild honor.

[Ponerology]

Can I ask a question... what if everyone did this? Do we really want the virtual streets of Eorzia full of people asking for freebies, without even knowing if they are real (and nice) fellow gamers?

I have a vision of the game full of characters sitting on the ground doing a /beg emote!

[Judah_Brandt]

I am understanding of player's desire to own an in game house, truly. As someone who dealt with a housing glitch on my server after spending roughly four days waiting on a Plot to vacate due to a server glitch, I know the effort it takes to find a Plot let alone raise the Gil to do so. Except I actually earned the Gil.

As someone who put the effort forth to level my crafting and gathering, spent time and effort getting relevant stats and grinding my way to the specialist recipies and folklore books, this is actually more or less insulting. If you contend that other players don't have the time it takes to earn their Gil in such a way, and that it would take too long for them to earn it through the means the game otherwise provides through roulettes and such, I in turn contend that they have no need for an asset that would better suit others with more time available to use said asset.

The availability of these in game assets is surely a point of contention, but in no way should it be combated by literal and figurative panhandling. Even with more housing becoming available in the near future, and the addition of instanced housing in Ishgard, should you somehow justify just asking for another player's earned assets.

Taking advantage of a kind community is one thing, but trying to thinly veiled as some crusade against those who abuse a broken housing system is pretty ridiculous. I'm sorry, but for those reasons and the others mentioned above, this whole campaign is nothing short of begging so you can avoid effort.

[Talamarie]

Taking advantage of a kind community is one thing, but trying to thinly veiled as some crusade against those who abuse a broken housing system is pretty ridiculous. I'm sorry, but for those reasons and the others mentioned above, this whole campaign is nothing short of begging so you can avoid effort.

This is really horrible talking about it like that Judah. IT IS begging if you want so bad to play with words and i never hide that fact. Because the fact is this if i really have to explain it : in this topic you ask people to help you even if you do some efforts by yourself or not. People beg about minions, sets, help in dungeons, and even already money for low things. It already exist.

I feel insulted that you dare say it's taking advantage of people. Like i presented it in the first post, it's a call for generous people, a fundraising. And it's THEIR FREE CHOICE to help other getting that money. I understand your point of view but don't come here saying that it's ridiculous or you're insulting people who actually give to other. Respect their way of acting.

[Atoli]

Server: Ragnarok
Land type: lush forest, meadow, temperate and moist, no burnt parts please
Desired land size: XXXXXL
Preferred location: The Shroud - all of it
Funds limit: unknown, but I think the entire city state is a bit expensive, might need funding to drive those pesky Gridanians out who annoy me with their talk about following the elementals' will all the time.
Character(s): Sera Malqir
Other contact(s): Don't contact anyone else about this!! I think it might be an illegal operation. Hm...maybe the adventurer's guild in Revenant's Toll, they can deal with the Gridanian refugees if we pay them enough >:3
Link for external website: If you give me the money for it, I'll let you live in one of those fancy houses that become vacant then.

[Zigabar]

This is adorably naive. While sweet on paper, the execution would go so badly.

It's insanely easy to make gil in this game. Really, just level up a WVR or LTW and craft some glamour items. You'll have the money for a house in no time.

But, good for you if you manage to get someone to donate gil to your cause.

[Eydir]

I would like to begin my answer with this part. Are you serious ?! Do not take offense plz and let's step out of the subject of the topic for this and focus on the logic of what you said. [...] [snip] [...] even go on the Lodestone and type any name you want on the search feed and you can get any random results you want ! Do you see my point here ?

First: Chill.
Second: It wouldn't really work that way. The only way to trade gil is via mooglemail or face to face. And everyone who is dumb enough to accept a million gil worth trade and/or a friendship request from Yusulafxfdg Yusfxfdg without knowing this person, well... you said you don't mean any offense but honestly, calm down some and think about it properly.

(Snipped for the word limit)

[Talamarie]

First: Chill.
Second: It wouldn't really work that way. The only way to trade gil is via mooglemail or face to face. And everyone who is dumb enough to accept a million gil worth trade and/or a friendship request from Yusulafxfdg Yusfxfdg without knowing this person, well... you said you don't mean any offense but honestly, calm down some and think about it properly.

(I answered you perfectly calmed and quite laughing about it too i admit.) And THAT'S the kind of point i wanted to see being talked about in this topic. People can be dumb that's true so in this topic we could write tips to recognise good people from trolls or to avoid suspicious offers. We could do it for both way : to givers and to askers. That's the kind of ameliorations i asked to talk about to work on to help this topic being viewed as something good with potential and working.

[Eydir]

(I answered you perfectly calmed and quite laughing about it too i admit.) And THAT'S the kind of point i wanted to see being talked about in this topic. [...] snippetysnip] [...] That's the kind of ameliorations i asked to talk about to work on to help this topic being viewed as something good with potential and working.

"Are you serious ?!" and spaces before every ! and ? at the end of every sentence appear everything but calm. Otherwise I also fully agree with the post Judah_Brandt made. Improvements to the housing system would be the better turn of action so I advise you make your voice heard there. And I can just repeat myself, starting your own business in any possible way will sustain you over a much longer time anyway for multiple things, be it gear, glamour or housing which will as you continue playing never stop to be relevant. Always being at the mercy of other players can't be the way.