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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    It won't really be harder cause lot of people already buy houses for a inflated price just look on reddit there a whole section dedicated to it. Say medium on balmung person pretty much selling their rights to give up the house for 50 million gil and then have to buy the actual plot for 37 million which is 87 million so what would be the difference between buying from a person that just flipping the plot cause of a badly done system or buying directly from the system for 80-90 million?
    Because depending on the server, Medium houses weren't being sold for 80-90 Mil? O.o LOL

    Our FC bought a medium in The Goblet on a nice plot, Ward 1 plot 8, for 37 mil. So while you're correct the system is poor, there is a HUGE difference between flipping and paying 80-90 mil for a medium or having a plot available to purchase for 40 or less.
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    I could see them matching the original prices again but I don't think they will go over that and be like



    for a large house
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    We should not be basing it on how much people have, but what they can make. It's much easier to make gil than it was back when I made my gil. Most people don't have that much because they put little to no effort into making gil.
    This would be fine if there was an overabundance of housing, with it being a possible long term goal for a player. An amount of gil that a player could slowly build up on, to eventually buy a house.

    But there's no overabundance of housing, there's a very limited amount in comparison to the population of some of the servers. That doesn't take into account the super rich who will buy up multiple houses, with the goal to re-sell them at an even higher price. By the time the previously mentioned player gets the funds together, the housing plots will be gone, with the only 'option' being purchasing one from another player. It's hardly an option due to how much player-sold houses are going for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    This person is right, it really easy to make gil in the game, especially if person has their crafts/gathering jobs leveled. So if a person really puts their best effort forward they easily have enough for a medium house easily. I'm kind of a slacker though so I don't make as much gil as I could but I bought a medium house and had the gil made back in like a week.
    It is and it isn't.

    Some people have full time jobs and do other things in game BESIDES gathering and crafting. Others do not. So while I have all Master Books for crafting and have the ability to gather most things that sell, I have to deal with undercutting by those who can craft more and watch the MB 24/7. That's not a gripe; it's a fact. I watch friends of mine who don't work, hawking the MB in order to undercut the person who undercut them to have that person within minutes, undercut them again and have my friend ... you get the idea. Rinse Repeat. Rinse repeat.

    I got into a war like that on a market item that had been since day one selling in the mid teens to 20k per item HQ. After duking it out with another player for a few days, you can now buy that same item HQ for under 6k. That was 3 weeks ago! And that market STILL has yet to recover.

    So yeah. You can make money with relative ease in this game, but it is by no means THAT EASY. And again, some people want to do the CONTENT of the game. Not just craft and gather for 9.99 to 20$ a month. That's not why they bought the game. It needs to be fair and equal for ALL player types.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sento-Frost View Post
    Yeah Nezerius but even after price drop, housing plots were still available for long times and prices had the time to go down every 6 hours.
    We'll see but I'm pretty sure it'll be way more than x2, at least for small and medium plot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sento-Frost View Post
    Problem has been stated in previous comments, when housing came out Square Enix intended it to be a gil sink, so that currency get destroyed from the game. As said by Youkulm, there is not enough gil sink and people are getting richer and richer every day. I think Square will adjust the prices in the same way as when housing came out, so that the gil sink works again.

    If you remember housing patch, most FC could not afford any house, and housing plots remained up and available for months, prices had the time to go down to the minimum price (half the price) before someone had the gil to spend on it. If they want it to work again that way, I think doubling prices won't be enough and we're more talking about x5 or even more, at least on my server.

    People are buying everyday allagan replicas and other glamour stuff at the price of half a house, that's saying a lot about their purse status !
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    If you remember that patch, and the housing numbers it came with, you'd know how badly that turned out. The prices on the houses were insane, and there was a good reason why the housing prices were decreased by a lot.

    The one thing everyone seems to be forgetting about the Housing release for FCs only several years ago is, NO ONE HAD AS MUCH MONEY AS WE DO NOW! LOLOL I have as much money as what my FC had in TOTAL to FINALLY buy a medium plot and build the house! LMAO Now you have players who have 100s of millions in gil! My GF saw a player for XIV on Youtube, who literally had over 900 mil in gil. So yeah. It's a little ridiculous. You also have to remember, gathering and crafting are NOT the only ways for people to make insane money. Selling wins is another.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    I also don't think a big one-time purchase works all that well as a gil sink. A better gil sink is taking something that's used on a daily basis, and adding a small gil price to it.
    I can agree with this and your example of Mini Cactpot was a good one but then you run into issues with doing that. The out cries of, "Why can't I just buy Gold Saucer items with gil if you're going to charge me gil for playing Mini Cactpot?!" etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    This would be fine if there was an overabundance of housing, with it being a possible long term goal for a player. An amount of gil that a player could slowly build up on, to eventually buy a house.

    But there's no overabundance of housing, there's a very limited amount in comparison to the population of some of the servers. That doesn't take into account the super rich who will buy up multiple houses, with the goal to re-sell them at an even higher price. By the time the previously mentioned player gets the funds together, the housing plots will be gone, with the only 'option' being purchasing one from another player. It's hardly an option due to how much player-sold houses are going for.
    Housing being so limited is precisely why it needs to be priced higher. If there was housing for everyone then it wouldn't matter what they price it at. They could make it free for all I care.
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    All of this is just idle speculation. However in Duty Commenced they referenced the housing price adjustment as being among classes of plots, which seems much more fair to me. These people with literally hundreds of millions of gil have likely been playing a rather long time, and shouldn't necessarily have so tremendous an advantage in buying housing by pricing up to their level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beatific View Post
    All of this is just idle speculation. However in Duty Commenced they referenced the housing price adjustment as being among classes of plots, which seems much more fair to me. These people with literally hundreds of millions of gil have likely been playing a rather long time, and shouldn't necessarily have so tremendous an advantage in buying housing by pricing up to their level.
    Disagree. They've been playing a long time and still don't have a house? How long do you want them to wait? Those who have been waiting the longest having an advantage on getting a house first seems appropriate to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Disagree. They've been playing a long time and still don't have a house? How long do you want them to wait? Those who have been waiting the longest having an advantage on getting a house first seems appropriate to me.
    I think anyone who has managed to save enough gil for a house should be able to purchase it, regardless. Imposing monetary roadblocks based on time played, as opposed to player effort would be a whole other level of exclusionary. We will have to agree to disagree I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beatific View Post
    I think anyone who has managed to save enough gil for a house should be able to purchase it, regardless.
    That would be ideal. It's not possible though because housing is limited. You can save up enough and end up with nothing.
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