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    Youkulm's Avatar
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    Arle Egress
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    Let's be honest. The housing prices need an increase.

    The economy needs more gil sinks desperately. It's so stupid easy to make gil in this game and since a lot of people don't even need to pay for repairs... the only way gil is really sunk on a regular basis is through teleports ( which shouldn't really increase in price, it's torture enough for brand new players lol )

    Also with what other people in this thread have mentioned... a price increase won't stop the housing mafia from buying everything up but it will put a roadblock in their way making it easier for the every other man to save up their gil and get their hot little hands on a house.

    I remember when my first FC bought their house almost 2 years ago on Gilgamesh the plots were open for months after they doubled the wards. That was because money was harder to come by. Now that you're rolling in gil by the time you get 60 anyone should EASILY be able to save or already have the 5mil for a small.

    I have a personal feeling the prices will not increase very much or way too much. Let's see what happens lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    The economy needs more gil sinks desperately. It's so stupid easy to make gil in this game and since a lot of people don't even need to pay for repairs... the only way gil is really sunk on a regular basis is through teleports ( which shouldn't really increase in price, it's torture enough for brand new players lol )
    This person is right, it really easy to make gil in the game, especially if person has their crafts/gathering jobs leveled. So if a person really puts their best effort forward they easily have enough for a medium house easily. I'm kind of a slacker though so I don't make as much gil as I could but I bought a medium house and had the gil made back in like a week.
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    Geesus Ravenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    This person is right, it really easy to make gil in the game, especially if person has their crafts/gathering jobs leveled. So if a person really puts their best effort forward they easily have enough for a medium house easily. I'm kind of a slacker though so I don't make as much gil as I could but I bought a medium house and had the gil made back in like a week.
    It is and it isn't.

    Some people have full time jobs and do other things in game BESIDES gathering and crafting. Others do not. So while I have all Master Books for crafting and have the ability to gather most things that sell, I have to deal with undercutting by those who can craft more and watch the MB 24/7. That's not a gripe; it's a fact. I watch friends of mine who don't work, hawking the MB in order to undercut the person who undercut them to have that person within minutes, undercut them again and have my friend ... you get the idea. Rinse Repeat. Rinse repeat.

    I got into a war like that on a market item that had been since day one selling in the mid teens to 20k per item HQ. After duking it out with another player for a few days, you can now buy that same item HQ for under 6k. That was 3 weeks ago! And that market STILL has yet to recover.

    So yeah. You can make money with relative ease in this game, but it is by no means THAT EASY. And again, some people want to do the CONTENT of the game. Not just craft and gather for 9.99 to 20$ a month. That's not why they bought the game. It needs to be fair and equal for ALL player types.
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    That's kind of how economies work, even virtual ones. So it does not surprise me if they raise the prices. The problem with housing was never the prices to be honest within the grand scheme of things. Everyone can save up for one even if do so at different speeds. The main problem is and always was the shortage of plots, even after 3.3 it will remain a huge problem in general. House prices might put some people off but everyone is capable of making gil and saving up for it.

    I care less about a potential rising of house prices than the fact there is so few plots overall, making gil is not limited outside of time and effort willing to put in despite the fact people who already own a house get a huge advantage in that regard, plots are however finite and very limited so no matter how much gil people have they probably won't get one. It is made worse by the introduction of airship ventures and gardens which create a vast amount of additional wealth for the limited amount of house owners (the gap between the rich and the poor increasing), even worse when take into account many people own multiple houses...but in terms of priorities though, plot availability is the biggest issue and wouldn't matter if house cost 1 gil or 1 billion gil if there is not enough plots to go around.
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    Leen Strife
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    It's very unlikely that prices would go down.

    Players are complaining about not being able to buy houses because there is a lack of plots.
    Square said they can't add too many plots because of limited server resources.
    Some people are buying plots to resell them on their own account or even multiple plots on alts.
    They will add a few plots to address a bit housing situation
    They will add a flat system in Ishgard to address a bit more housing situation (512 flats per building), most certainly in instantiated zone to avoid resource sink like housing is.

    Given all this data, one can only assume that real houses prices will rise A LOT and flats will be affordable.
    I wish they'd disallow personal housing except in (big house-like but instantiated) flats, so that the housing wards are full of active FC members ^^
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    Avlon Pepperdine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sento-Frost View Post
    It's very unlikely that prices would go down.

    Players are complaining about not being able to buy houses because there is a lack of plots.
    Square said they can't add too many plots because of limited server resources.
    Some people are buying plots to resell them on their own account or even multiple plots on alts.
    They will add a few plots to address a bit housing situation
    They will add a flat system in Ishgard to address a bit more housing situation (512 flats per building), most certainly in instantiated zone to avoid resource sink like housing is.

    Given all this data, one can only assume that real houses prices will rise A LOT and flats will be affordable.
    I wish they'd disallow personal housing except in (big house-like but instantiated) flats, so that the housing wards are full of active FC members ^^
    What you all are saying makes sense. Damn, I wish I was saving harder earlier! I need to get this done and hope something becomes available!
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    I expect land plot prices to at least double, current pricing reflect the economy as it was years ago. Since then the average Gil per player has increased substantially. I don't think this will fix the housing Mafia either, there are players out there who would spend 250 m on a large just to get someone to relinquish. There are only 3 larges per ward and you're up against thousands of players, many whom already pay over what they're worth from the server via reselling exploitation.
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    Last edited by Marcellus_Cassius; 05-04-2016 at 12:15 AM.

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    Susuwu Suwu
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    Let's face it. Housing could be anything for a player's point of view. But for SE and game economic, housing serves for one sole purpose- recycling Gil. There are millions of ways you can earn Gils from the game, but very few way to be recycled back to the game. Consequences are inflation. If the dev team doesn't do anything about it, all players' Gils will become merely useless number one day. Then the only way to buys thing for a player not willing to quit theirs real life for farming would have to go RMT. For the sake of a healthy game economics, I don't think raising the housing price is a bad idea. I'm a relatively new player to this game and community. One of my goal is buying a house and I barely having 2 mil in possession now. But I'll support SE in any price tag they are going to put on the new housing because it's going to benefit me in a long run.
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    Miroku Takahashi
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    I just don't understand why housing wasn't limited to one house per account and one house per fc in the first place. That would have stopped the real estate market before it began.
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    Stouter Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroku View Post
    I just don't understand why housing wasn't limited to one house per account and one house per fc in the first place. That would have stopped the real estate market before it began.
    No, it would have barely dented it. Most of the flipped houses were not bought with alts.
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