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    Elky's Avatar
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    Elk Macha
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60

    GCD timer is to high for melee and ranged physical dps.

    I always wondered why i gravitated towards casters in this game. Then it hit me, the GCD timer makes everything without a cast time ridiculously slow and boring.Casting in the game feels fluid and natural, while melee classes have this weird awkward pause while attacking. I can feel it when I am playing Ninja or a tank. Many people that I've talked to that tried the game said their biggest gripe early on is the GCD timer. And I have to agree, physical dps like Ninja, which is supposed to be fast paced, is rather slow. Everything may as well have a cast time, because its essentially the same thing as a GCD timer. A black mage begins to cast fireI, GCD also starts at the same time,cast ends GCD also ends. Bard uses straight shot, its instantaneous(yes I know about wanderer's minuet) but the GCD prevents anymore action from being taken. The Bard is now at the same pace as the Black Mage due to this mechanic even though they do not have a cast time. The only difference are auto attacks, but auto attacks are kinda, meh and not very interactive.

    Is it game shattering to reduce the GCD by 1-.5 seconds? The game could even be balanced around it. Its just so slow for the sake of being a final fantasy game.
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    Last edited by Elky; 04-29-2016 at 11:52 PM.

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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    There are many players who like it the way it is.

    Asking for a new job with shorter GCDs would be more realistic.
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    There are many players who like it the way it is.

    Asking for a new job with shorter GCDs would be more realistic.
    Like a job that has lightning fast attacks that has a lower base GCD? Something like....a Ninja? ohwait.
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    Sevyrr Flamesong
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    Moogle
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Elky View Post
    Like a job that has lightning fast attacks that has a lower base GCD? Something like....a Ninja? ohwait.
    Get yourself a decently geared Ninja at lv60 and say again that the class feels sluggish.
    *uses raiton* > *loses 1s on next GCD*
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Elky View Post
    Like a job that has lightning fast attacks that has a lower base GCD? Something like....a Ninja? ohwait.
    You obviously don't have a geared 60 ninja, at I220 with Huton up the GCD is well under 2 seconds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    You obviously don't have a geared 60 ninja, at I220 with Huton up the GCD is well under 2 seconds
    I can imagine I have 2second gcd under ley lines as a blackmage. But I wouldn't count 2seconds fast if I wasn't a caster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elky View Post
    I can imagine I have 2second gcd under ley lines as a blackmage. But I wouldn't count 2seconds fast if I wasn't a caster.
    Level 60 melee classes are constantly using off GCD abilities though, whereas that's not really something you do as often as a caster. The reason Mudra lag was sucha big issue was because it was so hard to not clip your GCD with it. It gets pretty hectic sometimes as a melee, honestly I'd say bards have it the worst because the cast bars from WM don't line up with the GCD so you still have off GCDs to use but you have way less time to use them.
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    Luku Asura
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    This is an observation at max level with stats on par to clear seph ex? Cause otherwise you are comparing apples to oranges cause like any game, you aren't starting the game maxed out, you grow your character to that point.

    If SE lowered the GCD that much they would have to lower tp cost of everyone's skills otherwise people in the game would run out of tp witching a minute or less.

    A MNK at that GCD reduction would have near instant recovery from GCD at that point...
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    I like it the way it is personally. Weaving in CD's correctly balances it out.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    many jobs rely on the GCD timer to weave OGCD skills into their rotation, its one of the reasons that I hate that they made BRD a caster, because it breaks the flow of this weaving. Something tells me that if this is your view of melee jobs, then you aren't playing those jobs correctly.
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