How can we improve the way medals are handled if someone DCs or leaves?

[Ryuko]

So, I'm sure everyone has encountered the random DC or raging team member who outright leaves once in a while. It's super frustrating when they drop out (for whatever reason) because their coins drop on the floor and can be easily picked up by the other team (they don't transfer to your other teammates).

Tonight, I encountered a situation that really made me feel bad for the other team. I've seen people DC all night, but nothing was as heart-wrenching as this moment.

So I was in 4v4 ranked. Our team wasn't doing well. There were 30-ish seconds left and we were behind in medals, but, since I thought we would lose anyway, I ran to mid thinking I would just blow my LB on someone. There was no reason not to, anyway. The opposition was standing in a group in mid, just waiting for us (by this point, there was 15-ish seconds left). Then I watched someone DC or leave right in front of me, and their coins dropped on the floor. In my last game, the one before that one, something similar happened to my teammate (watched him DC and we lost his coins at the end), so I wasn't exactly feeling bad about running in and grabbing those coins. After grabbing them, I quickly ran behind a wall and sprinted away before anyone could react. It was all very fast. By that point, there was 5-ish seconds left and the match ended with my team as the winners... they couldn't kill me fast enough.

Is that fair? Nope! Not at all. If people were kinder about DCs when they happen, I wouldn't have been such a jerk about it... but, y'know how it is in competitive PvP. :P All's fair in love and war.

Anyway, I was thinking maybe we could brainstorm a better way for medal drops to be handled if someone leaves or DCs during a match? It's really not fair to your own team if something unexpected like that happens, but I understand that they don't want people abusing the ability to DC or leave. Perhaps we could change it so those medals that were dropped can only be picked up by the team of the person who DCed? Sure, your team would now have higher medal stacks (and those wouldn't be adjusted), but it wouldn't be an instawin for the opposition in a situation like the one I described above.

[Nalien]

This definitely needs to be addressed... Just had a match, everyone ran in, Monk disconnected. No DPS, our healer went down, Summoner followed. Match over almost instantly. Yay minus rating, because of a f*cking disconnect?!

They either need to prevent those medals from being picked up at all/for a duration, or null the matches results, because any match with a disconnect is just woefully unfair... If you're on the receiving end of one, it is just plan shitty, if you get free medals out of one? Easy +rating, but nobody should feel good about winning a match like that...

I don't even think I'd want the medals to just not be counted, the team with a disconnect/leave is at a huge disadvantage just by virtue of that fact... The results simply should not count... Let the match play on, if a disconnect happens that should be an automatic draw. It isn't fair to punish three people for the bad connection/attitude of one player, and we shouldn't reward four for that either. That just skews rating results...

[Ryuko]

I don't even think I'd want the medals to just not be counted, the team with a disconnect/leave is at a huge disadvantage just by virtue of that fact... The results simply should not count... Let the match play on, if a disconnect happens that should be an automatic draw. It isn't fair to punish three people for the bad connection/attitude of one player, and we shouldn't reward four for that either. That just skews rating results...

While I agree with you in principle, I don't trust people not to abuse that system.

Let's say you enter a game and your team is getting completely destroyed... so someone on your team decides to DC to negate the results of the game. Even worse, what if you enter a game and realize that you have a notoriously bad player on your team and it's unlikely you'll win anyway... Oh, just DC to negate the results.

Basically, I don't trust everyone to play fair, so allowing for an automatic draw would just create more frustration for PvPers and more work for GMs (who would now have to review even more situations of abuse and make judgment calls based on that).

I really can't think of anything besides the medals dropping for your own team to pick up. Either way, I think it shouldn't be possible for the opposition to pick up the medals right away... just seems unfair.

[Nalien]

Perhaps have a draw for all who kept playing, while the individual/s who disconnects gets the regular -rating. I mean... Sure it sucks if you have an honest disconnect, but... What are the chances your team was going to walk out with a win a man down anyway? Chances are, if you disconnect you're getting -rating anyway, at least that way nobody else has to suffer (or artificially advance) because of your shoddy internet.

I guess that's still open to abuse, since you'd be able to save your team a reduction and prevent your opponents from advancing, but would people really do that if their rating is going to tank as a result? I feel like that would be the sort of behavior that's easily recognizable and simple ban if truly abused...

[Canadane]

I wouldn't want to give the opposing team nothing because my team had a DC.
If anything, give them a lesser +rating when they win and the losers a lessened -rating (say 25% less for each player DCd at the end), but if the lower team pulls through and wins they should be given a boost to their rating.

I've been on the other side of the situation where the opposing team had a DC. The win felt empty. :\

[Elfidan]

This really does need more attention.

[Ryuko]

I think reducing the amount gained/lost is a decent solution, but it kind of negates when it happens at the very, very end. I could still see a possibility for abuse if a team is getting badly beat, though.

[abbas]

If someone DC or quit the match .. No medals should drop. party medal points remain the same and no stacks transfer from the ( Gone member ) to any of the party members. i guess. cuz they lost a member and the enemy team have the upper hand to beat them anyway... so no medal drop is safer for the party that lost a member.

[Thekk]

If someone DC or quit the match .. No medals should drop. party medal points remain the same and no stacks transfer from the ( Gone member ) to any of the party members. i guess. cuz they lost a member and the enemy team have the upper hand to beat them anyway... so no medal drop is safer for the party that lost a member.

The problem with that is someone with 10 stacks could just DC and come back near the end. Sadly, there's no magical solution to the problem. Even dropping only a part of it could be problematic in the case you know it won't be enough for the other team to catch up.

If it's too lenient, it will get abused.

Tweaking the rating gain/loss for the other players in the match seems like the fairest solution to me. Thankfully, I've only had one teammate DC so far (though it was during qualifiers...), so it hasn't been a major issue.

[Fodemhouse]

Some people register with 2 accounts, 1 of them is put on my team and AFK in the base, the other account is playing on oposite team... yeah... very fair...