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    They need to stop doing this crap, really. Give the players more details so we can tell you if its a good idea, because what they've been caning out lately has been lackluster at best and not something players can invest in longer than your typical 4v4/8v8 player head bash session.

    Anyways my speculation is they're going for a PvP Strategy Mode. The crystals could be resources that your players have to gather for points (hoping we can use them to get special weapons or support mechanics). I see a pillar with an odd cross on it, so I'm guessing a checkpoint system or a base of some sort that players have to capture. The area looks genuinely big, there's also a bridge in the second picture on the far left, maybe that's where our base spawn point is?

    I dunno. With how they are dealing with content as of late I'm going to leave some more low expectations as I did with Feast which was also lacking in diversity. :/
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    best way to keep frontlines active = make a super rare mount drop randomly after each 1 lol make it tradable even better XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    best way to keep frontlines active = make a super rare mount drop randomly after each 1 lol make it tradable even better XD
    This is a joke, right? Because I'm pretty sure that this would just kill queue times faster lol.

    I mean, if a mount dropped after every single match, then you'd always have a 1 in 8 chance to get it. Those are some damn good odds (far better even then the extreme primal mount drops). You'd probably have your mount within a week and would have no reason to queue anymore. If they made it trade-able you'd never need to queue, because the regular PvP community who queue for fun would be selling their extra's on the MB.

    I'm all for adding extra rewards to the PvP game modes, but if we're talking about sustainability then the best option is a vastly expanded and overhauled PvP vendor system, not a freebie mount handed out like candy at the end of every round ... Though I'm definitely not going to turn that candy down if they decide to hand it out. Just saying. Everyone has a sweet tooth, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    This is a joke, right? Because I'm pretty sure that this would just kill queue times faster lol.
    naturally it was lol i think they gotta add incentive to do frontlines tho to atleast keep it active personally imo... they should have mixed rankings for pvp seasons.. top players in feast get rewards, top players in frontlines get rewards and top players in both combined get the best rewards

    and stop making new modes until they fix the broken 1s 1st..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    naturally it was lol
    Just checking lol. On the forums you never know...

    I agree that more incentive is needed. Adding extra rewards would definitely be a good start, but I think they should take a long hard look at the Vendor system as well. If the PvP vendors offered items for crafting, upgrade items, relic items, and tomestone items there would be far more reason to queue up. We don't really use our Wolf Marks as it is, so giving us useful things to spend them on would be a pretty good incentive to get more of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    I agree that more incentive is needed. Adding extra rewards would definitely be a good start, but I think they should take a long hard look at the Vendor system as well. If the PvP vendors offered items for crafting, upgrade items, relic items, and tomestone items there would be far more reason to queue up. We don't really use our Wolf Marks as it is, so giving us useful things to spend them on would be a pretty good incentive to get more of them.
    I'm incline to think they should cut tomestones/Wolf Marks out of (ranked) Feast and have them solely for Frontlines. Anyone queuing for Feast is queuing for rating, the other rewards are nice, but they mean Frontlines is essentially worthless... I suppose you could just add some new currency style reward to Frontlines to draw interest to it, but that seems like too much effort. All we need then is a solid purpose for Wolf Marks... Then you have a situation where Frontlines is constantly active as people need Wolf Marks, while Feast loses some activity for a time, but hopefully a stronger and consistent casual scene allows the competitive scene to grow in the long run.

    I'm not sure what to do with Wolf Marks though... Materia would be very nice, but completely irrelevant to PvP... With Frontlines being the casual scene though, a PvE reward like that would definitely help... What we need is a reason for people in the competitive scene to need Wolf Marks and thus ensure Frontlines is fairly stable... I've seen a few people suggest cutting out Limit Breaks in favor of a more specific "Job ultimate" skills, and I think something like that could work really well if we making it similar to the Heart of the Specialist skill... So you'd have an ultimate PvP ability, but it uses up a consumable that you obtain through Wolf Marks... Could have alterations on that concept, you could perhaps use the skill no matter what, but the consumable effectively gives it full potency, something like that... Unlike PvE rewards, that would be something PvPers would definitely go out of their way to obtain, and as a consumable it'll provide a constant purpose for Wolf Marks.

    Can also work it with Frontlines just being far better than Wolves' Den for farming Wolf Marks, perhaps having that 600 Wolf Mark bonus from the Roulette be a "In need" bonus, rather than daily one... That would also (hopefully) provide variation in Frontlines, as Seize would be just as viable as Shatter, and if they ever decide to give us Lv60 Secure/Slaughter, even better...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 05-03-2016 at 06:23 PM.

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    I wish they made a new version of Seal Rock instead. I still don't have the coat. I need about 40 wins or so to finish getting it. I made a thread supporting changing the Seal Rock gear achievements to Seal Rock and new Frontlines, but I don't know if they will do it.
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    i dont even have any mounts from frontlines lol
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    add class specific mounts for 200 frontlines victories?? lol 1 for every job would keep it active for a whiles id hope :P
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    i think that's a good idea, as well as more class specific titles like they way they are doing for feast.
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