Improve the playerbase, add a built in DPS/HPS/AoE Fail meter

[Donaria]

Not even gonna read all the comments! NO NO NO! an ingame parser is a bad idea please dont ask for this. I've seen first hand what "rating" others can do for a static/fc. At first it was nice to know that I play my roll well and can put out high numbers cool new high score right, but no body ever talks about how ugly it can get. This game has never been about the numbers once you stick a mandatory arbitrary number to it it stops being fun. Final Fantasy 14 has been about Jolly Cooperation with its community not some high rollers club.

[Blitzace]

These topics are never about getting in-game parsers. You can already very easily get them. This topic is about wanting them to be acceptable by SE so that people can use them to harass people not pulling their weight. I don't mind that so much as I mind dirty liars with that hidden agenda like OP, here.

Amen.

I like how everyone just sweeps it under the rug. I've seen more parsers talk shit about someone that praising them for their gameplay. Now imagine if it would be made in game. People be whining on the forums to remove the kick cooldown every single day.

"Ohh i wanna kick this new player cause he's only dealing X dps"

Grow up, So many times where i as the tank out DPS players or i keep up. Does that make me kick them? Nope i just accept not everyone pushes their DPS to the limits, some people play it casual. they enjoy the game they don't wanna crunch the numbers to they deal max dps in dungeon were it is not needed.

I see how its usefull in endgame raids/statics etc. not for every day use though.

[Donaria]

Amen.

I like how everyone just sweeps it under the rug. I've seen more parsers talk shit about someone that praising them for their gameplay. Now imagine if it would be made in game. People be whining on the forums to remove the kick cooldown every single day.

"Ohh i wanna kick this new player cause he's only dealing X dps"

Grow up, So many times where i as the tank out DPS players or i keep up. Does that make me kick them? Nope i just accept not everyone pushes their DPS to the limits, some people play it casual. they enjoy the game they don't wanna crunch the numbers to they deal max dps in dungeon were it is not needed.

I see how its usefull in endgame raids/statics etc. not for every day use though.

This so much I agree with you 100%

[Lethallin]

It's a tool of information to be used.

All of this information is already available to be seen. You can look through your combat log. It's all there.

But somehow adding it all together nice and neatly would create some kind of noob mass shaming, kicking, and hazing?

[Canadane]

A parser, especially when built-in, can result in a experience where players feel judged. It's a similar feeling that keeps certain players from picking up the tanking/healing role, so making DPS less comfortable to these players can result in them leaving the game.

The question now is, why do tanks and healers get the eye of judgement and DPS can smash their faces on their keyboards and call it a day?
It's very easy to spot when a tank or a healer doesn't perform well. And to the extremes you can usually pick out a DPS that isn't either. But you still don't have parity between the roles. Why is it that a tank or healer has to suffer the loss of their entire party while a DPS can be carried by his co-DPS? All the while mindlessly pressing buttons without any indication he's doing something incorrectly or inefficiently?

[Zojha]

But you still don't have parity between the roles.

And I doubt you even can - A DRK can do his primary job with nothing but unleash and maybe his aggro combo for bosses - WAR and PLD aren't much more demanding to do the bare minimum. Only one positional to care about as well (Face the enemies away from the party). Healers can typically do their role with no more than 5 buttons as well (Though Regen and Cure II suffice for the most part). Now try the same as DPS.

Healing and tanking are so much less complex than DPSing that most healers and tanks actually DPS themselves out of sheer boredom. Parity where?!

[Destous]

These topics are never about getting in-game parsers. You can already very easily get them. This topic is about wanting them to be acceptable by SE so that people can use them to harass people not pulling their weight. I don't mind that so much as I mind dirty liars with that hidden agenda like OP, here.

Are you this deluded? ACT causes framerate issues; and it's very limited when trying to share the information with a group; which means every detail needs to be spelled out in group chat or spoken over voice chat. Having a single meter that the whole group is looking at makes dissecting that information and utilizing it infinitely easier. People like you need to STFU about your "parse troll" boogeyman and let the rest of the playerbase rise to new level of progression.

[Rawrz]

The PS4 Player base wants a parser too. How is that not an understood thing?

I have literally made a list of all the items I would need to build a new PC today and yesterday. Gotten the best possible discounts I could get for it and loaded it into the online provider's various carts. Right as I'm about to buy the PC, I think of how I like how my setup is on my PS4. My macros, my hotbars, the way it records retroactively, the amazing SSD loading time and the lack of any real errors (a real 90x.) I would be spending two weeks of pay to just build a computer that can parse for me. That doesn't even include FFXIV ARR and HW Expansions that I would have to buy (for the third time. PS3->PS4->PC.)

I am 100% OK with a personal parser. I want to be be able to track my HPS and DPS on a tank and make it as wonderful to explore as an FFLog.

These topics are never about getting in-game parsers. You can already very easily get them. This topic is about wanting them to be acceptable by SE so that people can use them to harass people not pulling their weight. I don't mind that so much as I mind dirty liars with that hidden agenda like OP, here.

You got me. All these parsers I have on my PS4. Give me an illegal one and I'll use it the hell out of it. ALSO, harassment is a breach of the ToS.
Person A) Noticing how slow the run is going, A parses and notices that a DPS is under-performing. Doesn't say anything.
Person B) Noticing how slow the run is going, B parses and notices that a DPS is under-performing. Suggests keeping up your Heavy Thrust (If the DPS was a Dragoon.)
Person C) Noticing how slow the run is going, C parses and notices that a DPS is under-performing. Tells them to get better at their job or C will kick them and that they suck.
Person D) Noticing how slow the run is going, D does not have a parser. Doesn't say anything.
Person E) Noticing how slow the run is going, D does not have a parser. D assumes that a DPS is under-performing. Tells them to get better at their job or C will kick them and that they suck.

Who performed harassment and who did not?
If you said C and E you are correct! If you said C,E AND B, you are being too sensitive at the critique of others. B is not harassment.

Amen.
Grow up, So many times where i as the tank out DPS players or i keep up. Does that make me kick them? Nope i just accept not everyone pushes their DPS to the limits, some people play it casual. they enjoy the game they don't wanna crunch the numbers to they deal max dps in dungeon were it is not needed.

The fact that you can look at a parse and make the judgement to not say anything, is more choice than any ps4 player has. If the DPS had access to a parser and WANTED to out DPS you as the tank, as a goal, I think they could learn to beat that tank.

[Ciri_Wolf]

Are you this deluded? ACT causes framerate issues; and it's very limited when trying to share the information with a group; which means every detail needs to be spelled out in group chat or spoken over voice chat. Having a single meter that the whole group is looking at makes dissecting that information and utilizing it infinitely easier. People like you need to STFU about your "parse troll" boogeyman and let the rest of the playerbase rise to new level of progression.

Looks like I hit the nail on the head with how angry you got.

[Destous]

Looks like I hit the nail on the head with how angry you got.

Accusing someone else of being a closet misanthrope/fervent troll, and then receiving an angry response doesn't suddenly validate what you've said.

Having one player out of a hundred groups mention your DPS isn't being trolled.

A parse troll would be someone spitting your DPS numbers into the chat, and then chastising your for pulling a number that they don't think is up to snuff; and then they boot you before you have a chance to respond. That's being trolled, and you'll be relieved to know that it's all captured in the chat log and can be sent directly to SE through player support via a report. From there, a real live person will address your ticket in time and dish out the appropriate justice. There are already means within the game to deter bad actors from being bad actors.

So keep the hyperbole to yourself.