Improve the playerbase, add a built in DPS/HPS/AoE Fail meter

[Critical-Limit]

Without a group parser how does someone know how far from the ceiling their skill can take them? Like I could see a Mnk doing 1k does some changes starts doing 1.2k but stops improving not knowing they could get to 1,600 with their gear.

Not saying put an active group DPS.

Give everyone a essentially a in game Social security number.

You can go to a ranking board, of say sephirot extreme. Look up your job see where you stand in the world. Now imagine this MnK sees their 1.2k is enough to beat it and they weren't carried. But they see their like 99th place on the server for that fight, and sees a MNK did 1,650. They will KNOW they have plenty of more room for improvement without an active group parser.

[KogaDrake]

personal parser only, here is the issue. Player X is a NIN and he consistently does 800 DPS now, it is released, he makes some changes and now does 1000 DPS. He sees he improved and stays doing same number consistently and thinks he is fine. What he does not know is he should be doing 1400 or more. Without seeing the rest of your groups numbers too, or some comparison to others on the same job in the same instance (within a similar ilv too i guess) just seeing the numbers is not enough.

when raiding as a PS4 player, I absolutely hate it when the PC members of my static are not parsing and giving numbers out consistently because I can make every tweak and change in the world and gain 2-5% dps (or maybe even more) and not really be able to tell at all on any individual run. Add in that multiple people are making changes and your DPS may go up but someone else tried somethign that was not good and hurt their dps to a net wash, you both may stay with the new way or may both go back, or worst case I go back and they stay with the new way and your raid dps just went down. When your enraging at 10% on vortexer in a6s, unless you have numbers for each pull to see who is doing what and how player X's DPS changes as they try to make an adjustment to rotations around fights to know if it actually helped or not, you waste soo much time not knowing.

No matter how you look at it, these numbers are a vital part to doing any relevant end game content, and anyone who thinks they are not needed and can tell without them are lieing to themselves and are likely just afraid they may find out they have been wrong about there play all along.

[Ciri_Wolf]

These topics are never about getting in-game parsers. You can already very easily get them. This topic is about wanting them to be acceptable by SE so that people can use them to harass people not pulling their weight. I don't mind that so much as I mind dirty liars with that hidden agenda like OP, here.

[Blitzace]

These topics are never about getting in-game parsers. You can already very easily get them. This topic is about wanting them to be acceptable by SE so that people can use them to harass people not pulling their weight. I don't mind that so much as I mind dirty liars with that hidden agenda like OP, here.

Amen.

I like how everyone just sweeps it under the rug. I've seen more parsers talk shit about someone that praising them for their gameplay. Now imagine if it would be made in game. People be whining on the forums to remove the kick cooldown every single day.

"Ohh i wanna kick this new player cause he's only dealing X dps"

Grow up, So many times where i as the tank out DPS players or i keep up. Does that make me kick them? Nope i just accept not everyone pushes their DPS to the limits, some people play it casual. they enjoy the game they don't wanna crunch the numbers to they deal max dps in dungeon were it is not needed.

I see how its usefull in endgame raids/statics etc. not for every day use though.

[Destous]

These topics are never about getting in-game parsers. You can already very easily get them. This topic is about wanting them to be acceptable by SE so that people can use them to harass people not pulling their weight. I don't mind that so much as I mind dirty liars with that hidden agenda like OP, here.

Are you this deluded? ACT causes framerate issues; and it's very limited when trying to share the information with a group; which means every detail needs to be spelled out in group chat or spoken over voice chat. Having a single meter that the whole group is looking at makes dissecting that information and utilizing it infinitely easier. People like you need to STFU about your "parse troll" boogeyman and let the rest of the playerbase rise to new level of progression.

[Donaria]

Not even gonna read all the comments! NO NO NO! an ingame parser is a bad idea please dont ask for this. I've seen first hand what "rating" others can do for a static/fc. At first it was nice to know that I play my roll well and can put out high numbers cool new high score right, but no body ever talks about how ugly it can get. This game has never been about the numbers once you stick a mandatory arbitrary number to it it stops being fun. Final Fantasy 14 has been about Jolly Cooperation with its community not some high rollers club.

[Donaria]

Amen.

I like how everyone just sweeps it under the rug. I've seen more parsers talk shit about someone that praising them for their gameplay. Now imagine if it would be made in game. People be whining on the forums to remove the kick cooldown every single day.

"Ohh i wanna kick this new player cause he's only dealing X dps"

Grow up, So many times where i as the tank out DPS players or i keep up. Does that make me kick them? Nope i just accept not everyone pushes their DPS to the limits, some people play it casual. they enjoy the game they don't wanna crunch the numbers to they deal max dps in dungeon were it is not needed.

I see how its usefull in endgame raids/statics etc. not for every day use though.

This so much I agree with you 100%

[Lethallin]

It's a tool of information to be used.

All of this information is already available to be seen. You can look through your combat log. It's all there.

But somehow adding it all together nice and neatly would create some kind of noob mass shaming, kicking, and hazing?

[Rawrz]

The PS4 Player base wants a parser too. How is that not an understood thing?

I have literally made a list of all the items I would need to build a new PC today and yesterday. Gotten the best possible discounts I could get for it and loaded it into the online provider's various carts. Right as I'm about to buy the PC, I think of how I like how my setup is on my PS4. My macros, my hotbars, the way it records retroactively, the amazing SSD loading time and the lack of any real errors (a real 90x.) I would be spending two weeks of pay to just build a computer that can parse for me. That doesn't even include FFXIV ARR and HW Expansions that I would have to buy (for the third time. PS3->PS4->PC.)

I am 100% OK with a personal parser. I want to be be able to track my HPS and DPS on a tank and make it as wonderful to explore as an FFLog.

These topics are never about getting in-game parsers. You can already very easily get them. This topic is about wanting them to be acceptable by SE so that people can use them to harass people not pulling their weight. I don't mind that so much as I mind dirty liars with that hidden agenda like OP, here.

You got me. All these parsers I have on my PS4. Give me an illegal one and I'll use it the hell out of it. ALSO, harassment is a breach of the ToS.
Person A) Noticing how slow the run is going, A parses and notices that a DPS is under-performing. Doesn't say anything.
Person B) Noticing how slow the run is going, B parses and notices that a DPS is under-performing. Suggests keeping up your Heavy Thrust (If the DPS was a Dragoon.)
Person C) Noticing how slow the run is going, C parses and notices that a DPS is under-performing. Tells them to get better at their job or C will kick them and that they suck.
Person D) Noticing how slow the run is going, D does not have a parser. Doesn't say anything.
Person E) Noticing how slow the run is going, D does not have a parser. D assumes that a DPS is under-performing. Tells them to get better at their job or C will kick them and that they suck.

Who performed harassment and who did not?
If you said C and E you are correct! If you said C,E AND B, you are being too sensitive at the critique of others. B is not harassment.

Amen.
Grow up, So many times where i as the tank out DPS players or i keep up. Does that make me kick them? Nope i just accept not everyone pushes their DPS to the limits, some people play it casual. they enjoy the game they don't wanna crunch the numbers to they deal max dps in dungeon were it is not needed.

The fact that you can look at a parse and make the judgement to not say anything, is more choice than any ps4 player has. If the DPS had access to a parser and WANTED to out DPS you as the tank, as a goal, I think they could learn to beat that tank.

[Ciri_Wolf]

Are you this deluded? ACT causes framerate issues; and it's very limited when trying to share the information with a group; which means every detail needs to be spelled out in group chat or spoken over voice chat. Having a single meter that the whole group is looking at makes dissecting that information and utilizing it infinitely easier. People like you need to STFU about your "parse troll" boogeyman and let the rest of the playerbase rise to new level of progression.

Looks like I hit the nail on the head with how angry you got.