What do I do against Sleep and Stun

[Vejjiegirl]

I'm having a lot of trouble against Paladin and White Mage Teams.
It seems whenever they get a sleep/stun rotation going i'm out of battle for a long time and i'm unable to do anything. I've tried a lot of different ways to deal with it.

1. Focus Targeting the White Mage and watching for sleep, getting out of line of sight.
2. Running away from the Paladin when I have no stun resists
3. Making a Macro so my team is aware that i'm sleeping/stunlocked and ask for assistance
4. Stunning the Paladin first if they run at me

I've tried all of these things but they don't help at all in the long run, I can avoid getting slept and stunned the whole match but if I focus on that then my teams healing suffers.
And usually if i'm caught once and I use Purify more sleeps and more stuns are to follow. It gets even worse if the enemy team can silence me as well.

My only saving grace is if I have a Bard in my party with The Warden's Paeon. But some bards (especially if they are new) don't even use it on me when I need it or beg for it choosing to instead keep dpsing even when they are losing HP.

Also I noticed due to the low amount of healers quing there is a high chance you will end up fighting the same white mage/PLD team over and over again. Its getting really frustrating since whenever I face them I always lose, I want to figure out a way to beat Sleep and Stun but I'm really struggling.

How do you healers deal with getting CCed? Is there something i'm doing wrong or anything I can do to help?

[cherrylimeaid]

Not currently healing as I found bard more fun after pre-season, but as a DPS, I'd say don't be afraid to remind people at the beginning, middle and even the end of the game to watch out for the healer. Even though I play as a bard and use WP sometimes i need a reminder as I can get tunnel visioned. I see a lot of good healers with macros they use before the game starts with simple tips/reminders, "Run back to base if the healer dies," "You can use purified on a slept teammate (healer)," etc. If you are new, you are probably playing with other new people who may not even realize they should help purify the healer.

[Destroyer]

since the start of WD, CC is what wins games. CC is more powerful than any damage ability. thats why war having tons of damage before wasnt overpowered, because it could be countered with CC (and because all tanks were more dangerous). there is a lack of CC priority in feast. knockback into heavy, etc. SCH and WHM were well balanced, SCH could heal while being more mobile but WHM had more CC options. the best thing you can do, is counter their ccs with you own, and WHM is a priority target that should be pressed so hard they cant heal let alone cc

[Vejjiegirl]

since the start of WD, CC is what wins games. CC is more powerful than any damage ability. thats why war having tons of damage before wasnt overpowered, because it could be countered with CC (and because all tanks were more dangerous). there is a lack of CC priority in feast. knockback into heavy, etc. SCH and WHM were well balanced, SCH could heal while being more mobile but WHM had more CC options. the best thing you can do, is counter their ccs with you own, and WHM is a priority target that should be pressed so hard they cant heal let alone cc

Thank you for your advise Rotokk I've been trying to throw Stella at the enemy PLD if they run towards me and sprint away more often, I've also been using Blizz II a lot more than I used to to get away from PLD as well although when they catch me with even one stun things tend to get bad fast.

I actually don't mind Knockback as much since people tend to knock me away from danger (especially Garuda) sometimes, it can get annoying if its calculated though for example after a long chain of sleep/stun and then Knocked back and bound.

Not currently healing as I found bard more fun after pre-season, but as a DPS, I'd say don't be afraid to remind people at the beginning, middle and even the end of the game to watch out for the healer. Even though I play as a bard and use WP sometimes i need a reminder as I can get tunnel visioned. I see a lot of good healers with macros they use before the game starts with simple tips/reminders, "Run back to base if the healer dies," "You can use purified on a slept teammate (healer)," etc. If you are new, you are probably playing with other new people who may not even realize they should help purify the healer.

Thanks for your amazing advise Momo I've started to edit my macros with a Purify warning, I do have a macro that announces when I'm slept as well although many people ignore it. I almost feel like I should put a sound effect on more of my macros but i'm too afraid i'll get suspended.


I really wish Purify was more like Fetter Ward (CC block time limit) or Warden's Paean and blocked the next incoming CC as well as Purified it.