Request: Remove iLVL requirement for undersized party or pre-made groups

[Xavikon]

I feel like this was a thing back in ARR and seems to have gone away in HW, but please allow the undersize option, or add another option, that allows those without the minium iLVL to go into a raid. Additionally, it would be great if this requirement was lifted when the party was fully pre-made.

[Nekodar]

I feel like this was a thing back in ARR and seems to have gone away in HW, but please allow the undersize option, or add another option, that allows those without the minium iLVL to go into a raid. Additionally, it would be great if this requirement was lifted when the party was fully pre-made.

Since you can change gear as soon as you're inside, what exactly would this solve?
Is it just for fun? For selling runs? Gearing up new members?

[Xavikon]

Primarily for newbies is why I noticed this.

[Reynhart]

So that one high level character could carry up to 3 bots and gave them access to Ishgard ?
Please, no.

[Fynlar]

Yeah, the item level thing should only apply to having to grab people off the duty finder, just like enforcing the 1/1/2 or 2/2/4 party setups. Premades should not be subject to any of that stuff. If PF groups want to have an item level requirement for entry they can set one themselves.

So that one high level character could carry up to 3 bots and gave them access to Ishgard ?
Please, no.

Oh, please. You act like that's a hard thing to do for someone who already knows how to play the game

(presumably, if someone is dedicated enough to the game to run 4 accounts at the same time, they probably know how to play the game on at least some fundamental level)

[Reynhart]

Oh, please. You act like that's a hard thing to do for someone who already knows how to play the game

It's not hard so we should...ease it...somehow ?

This feature's only purpose would be to allow carrying people. How else would you justify asking for acces in a Duty for wich you're clearly undergeared ?

And I'm pretty sure it would be super fun to see all those gathering bot flooding in HW zones, right ?

[lvlagmarink]

So that one high level character could carry up to 3 bots and gave them access to Ishgard ?
Please, no.

Why would botters getting afraid of ilvl requirements when they have money to burn to buy mats/crafted gear/npc gears? This does not seem to be a plausible case in entirely benefiting botters..

[Reynhart]

Why would botters getting afraid of ilvl requirements when they have money to burn to buy mats/crafted gear/npc gears?

So, we should reduce the cost ?

Again, what purpose do such a feature would offer besides allowing to carry undergeared character ?
I see this already, finish 3.0 storyline naked, then you'll be rushed through Gordias and Midas by seven people to jump right past ilvl200. And some FC will make millions by selling those kind of run.

[Fynlar]

This feature's only purpose would be to allow carrying people. How else would you justify asking for acces in a Duty for wich you're clearly undergeared ?

Define undergeared, because I can think of numerous instances in the past where someone can validly contribute to the success of a duty without being at that duty's item level requirement.

The requirements are often quite arbitrary to begin with, such as the level requirements that got put on Coil once it was added to the DF, when many many people had been clearing the Coils well under those levels prior to it.

Again there is no valid reason why such requirements should be enforced on premades. If they want to challenge themselves they should be allowed to.

[Reynhart]

Define undergeared, because I can think of numerous instances in the past where someone can validly contribute to the success of a duty without being at that duty's item level requirement.

Well, since the OP asks for a simple removal of ilvl requirement, I'd say : ilvl1

All and all, the ilvl requirement are generally pretty low, so it's not a big gate. The only step where it can really hold you back is when you're jumping from Neverreap/Fractal to Sirius HM/Arboretum.

They're not allowing us to befriend our alt since it could, somehow, allow some exploits, so I really doubt they'll lift this requirement and allow for such blatant carrying.