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    Miyaka_Vigiles's Avatar
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    Need help with my group Raid DPS

    Hello all,

    I have very limited knowledge about classes other than my own (PLD) so I would like you guys to give me some tips on how to improve the raid group dps.
    Below is out A5S kill

    AS5

    The DRG looks pretty nice. However, BLM, MNK and BRD seem a bit lacking.
    The WAR recently switch classes, so I am guessing there is a lot of room to improve aswell.

    I am not sure what to look for in the logs as I know very little about these classes.

    Please take a look and tell me what they can do to improve.

    Also, is there another website where I can post and discuss how to improve for specific bosses? Maybe reddit or MMO champ?
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    Last edited by Miyaka_Vigiles; 04-27-2016 at 10:33 AM.

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    Player Violette's Avatar
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    Eonkhui Malaguld
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    Not die would be my big offer. We can't tell too much without gear levels, but it'll come down to practice. Warrior was definitely low, but he could be spending too much time in Defiance when he could be in deliverance. So idk, give it more shots and let us know.
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    we need more info, like the ilvl of everyone in the group to be able to gauge who isn't pulling their weight. Depending on your ilvl, that dps isn't bad. And if you've cleared then there shouldn't be an issue. After you clear for more weeks and get better gear, the dps should go up.

    As for how to improve on specific bosses... what's wrong with this website?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore022 View Post
    we need more info, like the ilvl of everyone in the group to be able to gauge who isn't pulling their weight
    BLM ilvl230
    BRD ilvl226
    MNK ilvl231
    DRG ilvl232
    PLD ilvl225

    Everyone has 230 weapons. War was on a different class when I tryed to check him on lodestone but he should be in a similar situation when it comes to gear.

    The MNK did die that try. However if u check the previous kills the dps is still on the low side (mostly green).
    The MNK has full lore gear + 230 weapon + 3x 240 accessories + grade V melds.
    I am not saying that I want 90%+ score but being maxed out on gear (outside A7S/A8S) and still scoring in the 30's and 40's is a bit alarming.

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    Like I said I know very little about other clases so I am hoping you guys could tell me things like
    - This guy isn't using his CDs as soon as they are up, he waits for the goblin to become small which is an over all dps loss
    - This guy dots falls off a lot
    - This guy is loosing his stacks

    Unless I come up with something specific for each guy, all discussions will go like "yeah we need to improve, I think once ppl get used to the fight the numbers will be better". Wich is sad considering many of us have been doing this fight for months and have many kills on it.
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    Last edited by Miyaka_Vigiles; 04-27-2016 at 09:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyaka_Vigiles View Post
    BLM ilvl230
    BRD ilvl226
    MNK ilvl231
    DRG ilvl232
    it.
    Oh wow. That's beyond extremely low for those ilvls. There are rotational issues. I only play monk so I can't speak for the others but being that low is probably in large part to bad fight optimization but I think there are issues with how he goes through his rotation/ opener. I'm on my phone and don't know if I care to analyze it even if I wasn't but if he heads to the monk thread on this forum, he'll learn a lot
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    Lilli Karani
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    DRG and BLM damage is okay IMHO.

    BRD and MNK do look low. In the overall rating MNK is the top DPS in this turn.

    You can compare with our data from yesterday. The MCH should be compareable to BRD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    ...
    BRD and MNK do look low. In the overall rating MNK is the top DPS in this turn...
    The monk did die once at 6 min for the stone curse. So that reduces it by somewhat. At a quick glance he was playing otherwise well. He even kept his GL3 stacks at hummelfaust. Which I don't see from every monk. It's not hard but they don't realise how to time it.

    But I'm on phone so I can't see everything so well for better analysis. Warrior could be higher tho. But is he doing the bombs or something? I'll look more when I get home if I remember
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    Quote Originally Posted by AniCelestine View Post
    The monk did die once at 6 min for the stone curse.
    Hm. Ok. I've seen now he didn't got raised.

    Why he didn't got raised?
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    Scrub comment: you NEED to improve? Why? Are you having problems with dps on a later fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash_Smokespear View Post
    Scrub comment: you NEED to improve? Why? Are you having problems with dps on a later fight?
    That log was from A5S kill which every one of us has done for many times so far. Meaning everyone knows the fight pretty well.
    The raid damage was enough to down the boss. However, I dont think we will make the cut for A7S/A8S if we stay the way we are.

    Adjustments wont happen over night, this is a long process. We need to start now so when the time comes when we are close to downing A7S/A8S, we would have ironed all these little things that people are suggesting.
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