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    Player Jhett_Magnum's Avatar
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    Character
    Zanku Hado
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I find WHM to be really boring.
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Character
    Taisai Jin
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 64
    Mechanically, I think most are fine, in terms of what they "should" be, though... IDK, Bard or Summoner?

    I'll probably go for Bard for now, since Summoner is getting Egi-Glamours eventually and that might change my opinion of the Job... I want Summoner to actually spend its time summoning (specifically, I like the idea Dreadwyrm Trance introduced, having a rotation that takes you through Inferno Trance, Vortex Trance, and so on would be much better than pets IMO), by it is very Final Fantasy to pick a favorite summon and just stick to using that over and over...

    Bard though... Ugh... I don't mind the bow, what I hate is the utter lack of Songs... I think it suffers from a broader problem with Jobs in this game in general, specifically the rule of three we have, along with things like dungeon design just being lazy... Things like crowd control being worthless in a boss fight I'm fine with, the strength of things like Sleep always came from the random encounters, but SE does nothing with the trash mobs in dungeons and they do nothing with the layout of dungeons... Ideally I'd like a situation where multiple routes are available, and which you pick is based on what Jobs you have. So perhaps you have a Black Mage or Bard (with a Sleep Song), so you go one route because you can crowd control the trash rather than fighting and skip them. Another run you have a Ninja, so you have them sneak off to grab a key or something... Variety like that is sorely missing in this game...

    I think what made Bard worse was Heavensward... Machinist I'm fine having Gauss Barrel, that kinda makes sense, even if the animation doesn't. Wanderer's Minuet though? Why do these two Jobs need the exact same mechanic? That is just pathetic... New level cap, perfect chance to give Bard some more Songs, best we get is Warden's Paean... Granted, that's much better now than it was at launch, but... Ugh... Where are the Songs?
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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Summoner, but that's mostly because I don't like their incarnation of Smn as a DoT class with a pet as a supplementary dps. In my opinion, a summoner should be about summoning things and the pets should be the focus.
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    Player
    Janise's Avatar
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    Character
    Valiana Valmond
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Got to be BRD - loved it to 50 - got WM and hated it thereafter. If I wanted to be a caster would have gone BLM. I got it to 60 in the end but now it just languishes doing nothing. Such a shame that SE screwed the job up so badly in HW.
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    Klamor's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Klamor Oli
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    I hate Ninja. Mostly because I've always despised rogues and other stealth classes in the various MMOs I've played. Here though, I do like the rotation because it flows smoothly, however Mudras can die in a fire.
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    Player
    Tint's Avatar
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    In the right-hand attic
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    Character
    Karuru Karu
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Klamor View Post
    I hate Ninja. Mostly because I've always despised rogues and other stealth classes in the various MMOs I've played. Here though, I do like the rotation because it flows smoothly, however Mudras can die in a fire.
    i think you are the first one who hates ninja and no one hates dark knight so far ^^ it seems most people hate bard and machinist >.>
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Character
    Bastilaa Shan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i think you are the first one who hates ninja and no one hates dark knight so far ^^ it seems most people hate bard and machinist >.>
    Oh I hate Dark Knight and it's execution despite being my favorite Tank job to play. I just hate Summoner much more. Summoner just feels so weak and like Dark Knight is an insult to it's namesake.
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    Player
    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Character
    Khalith Mateo
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Klamor View Post
    Mudras can die in a fire.
    I felt the same way until they did that most recent fix that did a fantastic job of addressing Mudra lag. Now I can deal with it again.
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    Player
    Powe's Avatar
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    Guarding Etro's Throne with Lightning
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    Character
    Hades Pluto
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Bard and dragoon, it requires complicated stuff like dying to a easy mechanic or die the second after getting rezed.
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    Kurogaea's Avatar
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    Character
    Raifu Kurogaea
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Fishing. Its boring. If you mean battle classes I'll go with Marauder. If I'm wielding a huge axe I expect to swipe multiple foes with one swing, not one target at a time. Need axe wielders like the amazon from Dragon's Crown who hits multiple targets with one swing.
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