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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    I respond with my videos linked in which Lloyd painstakingly explains exactly how...that's not true.
    Another thing you're missing, is that nearly all scythes used in fantasy games is not the same as the agricultural scythes he's referring to. He specifically reiterates that he's speaking in regards to the "agricultural" scythe.

    War Scythes are 100% real on the contrary as well. They're just not visually what people think of when they imagine them.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    You don't swing a scythe in the same manner the way you'd swing a great sword. It'd look very awkward with the current DRK animations unless they came up with new ones (which is a lot more development time if we're talking animations).

    Not to mention while scythes were historically used, they are far from practical compared to pitch forks due to the unwieldy nature of it, and war scythes are basically lances at that point.
    I'm definitely aware the issues surrounding implementation of this, but it's a request regardless. The animations for DRK would have to be tweaked, yes. Alternatively, I would support a DPS that used them as well.

    As for how the "war scythes" look, yes, I know they don't look like what we envision when we think of scythes, but neither do agricultural scythes. The type of scythes I, and many members of the community, would be requesting look like this guy's:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWolfwood View Post
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    That's exactly the scythe that I'm referring to that is impractical in battle. Not to mention you are the one that brought up war scythes to begin with, I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    That's exactly the scythe that I'm referring to that is impractical in battle. Not to mention you are the one that brought up war scythes to begin with, I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across.
    Well then I guess we can't have a discussion. If you think it's a dumb idea and impractical in comparison to bringing a book into battle or wielding swords that would be far too heavy for any person to wield effectively in battle, I have nothing to say really.

    It's still a request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    It's a magic book with sacred geometry. Also casters have been using tomes, grimoires, spell books, etc... in fantasy for forever so...
    not my problem that you need a notebook which tells you how to use your skills, I however defend myself with a scythe and use spells at the same time, I am so much cooler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    a lot better weapon than a book.
    It is the words in the book, not the book itself


    Try it with silencing the Summoner and look how much damage he can do (without the pet)

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    not my problem that you need a notebook which tells you how to use your skills, I however defend myself with a scythe and use spells at the same time, I am so much cooler.
    Wouldn't be a shield better?
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-29-2016 at 06:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    It is the words in the book, not the book itself

    Try it with silencing the Summoner and look how much damage he can do
    Whaaat? D: I love smacking enemies to death with my book! I do crits of up to 170 damage (on a lvl60 dummy)! =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWolfwood View Post
    Well then I guess we can't have a discussion. If you think it's a dumb idea and impractical in comparison to bringing a book into battle or wielding swords that would be far too heavy for any person to wield effectively in battle, I have nothing to say really.

    It's still a request.
    You're talking two entirely different contexts. Of course it's impractical to bring a book to a battle if you intend on whacking them with the book (and it does pitiful damage no less) rather than using the magic incantations.

    If your rebuttal is that "it's a request", then there's no rebuttal to anything, and there's no need for a discussion, but it almost makes me wonder why you even want to reply to other people at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    I however defend myself with a scythe and use spells at the same time, I am so much cooler.
    1) No you don't. There aren't any scythes in this game for combat. If you defend yourself with a Scythe as a Botanist while threshing wheat...pretty sure anything at level will kill you.

    2) By default of saying "I am so much cooler" you are automatically not cool at all.
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