People leaving the instant a dungeon pops

[Jamillion]

When the content is i180 it becomes irrelevant.

I can't even take that seriously.

[16bitBounty]

Why because you can't agree that this games content outside of the alexander raid and possibly savage primals is a cakewalk? Newsflash it is. Dungeon roulettes and runs are very very basic content. Unless you get unlucky enough, god forbid, to have to help someone with one of the Mentor roulettes, on a harder than average trial then what does it matter to you and even then if you don't want to help out don't be mentor. You aren't taking these dps to alex with you. I tanked yesterday with a Bard and Blackmage who were doing really low dps in a lv. 50 roulette. I got over it, we finished the dungeon.

You can very easily learn to play a class well in a few dungeon runs or Five minutes with a training dummy even if you run fates to 60. Just because well isn't good enough for your standards doesn't make it any less viable. Again, 1337 high horse, get off it.

[Jamillion]

snip.

You know absolutely nothing about me, and like I said, YOU aren't a baseline for the majority of the playerbase. If you're okay with every dungeon taking 45 minutes or more that's your prerogative. It doesn't make it good it just means you place no value on your time.

[16bitBounty]

*insert don't roulette if your time is too valuable argument here*

[Jamillion]

*insert don't roulette if your time is too valuable argument here*

Well, you know better than I do how valuable your time is. But anyway, this is off topic. The point was that dungeons are a better teacher than FATES on how to play any given job role. And they are. Objectively.

[CrystalRainbow]

Don't do them solo.. FC/LS to speed up queues. Get a Healer or Tank to join you. Don't take the Multiplayer out of MMORPG

My FC has people asking for queues all the times and it turns into a 2-3 hour party, of this that and the next thing.

[Aquaslash]

*insert don't roulette if your time is too valuable argument here*

But that's exactly right! If you have little time on your hands you should not be doing dungeons or joining farm parties or anything that has the potential to take a long time. Hell, this happened to me today, when a tank insta quit Amdapor Keep. It wasn't even the hard mode. The sad part is, we managed to beat it without him in less than 30 minutes. The fool would have had his tomes faster if he had just stayed.

While we're on this topic, I would like to make a PSA to everyone that uses Trials roulette:

STOP INSTA QUITTING STEPS OF FAITH YOU TURBO SCRUBS!

SoF is faceroll easy now. I legit farmed it for bonus tomes to complete my relic. There was never a wipe ever out of like 30 runs. You have to be next level garbage to wipe in that place now. I could legit give the controller to my mom who has zero hand eye coordination, and she'd still be able to beat it. Literally git gud

[16bitBounty]

snip

I completely agree with you though. Let it be known, however, that I will leave steps of fate if I get the chance to without taking the timer penalty!

[Jetstream_Fox]

Don't do them solo.. FC/LS to speed up queues. Get a Healer or Tank to join you. Don't take the Multiplayer out of MMORPG

My FC has people asking for queues all the times and it turns into a 2-3 hour party, of this that and the next thing.

Well according to some people looking for more active FCs and better LS to solve this problem is narrowminded. Despite them being options for all of us players to have better more easier times with pretty much the whole game.

[Gokuhan]

The best way to combat this is by making the lockout either the length of time remaining for the duty or 30 minutes, whichever is longer. That way people are already locked down for the time it would take to fail the dungeon anyway so they might as well try and complete it. I'm sure some people would still rather leave, but it might help.

12 hours is just insane, especially when you consider the trolls that will go out of their way to ruin a party.

And lets not forget, if the lockout if 12 hours then the tank is just going to go AFK until you kick him.