People leaving the instant a dungeon pops

[Khalithar]

Why level DPS in dungeons? That's just asking for a bad time.

Are folks really having that much issue leveling through dungeons? I've leveled every combat class to 60 except mnk (currently 53) and blm (30) and spam dungeons quite a bit, the amount of fail runs I've had is very small compared to the successful runs and I don't believe it's because I'm some godly player that carries groups cause I'm most definitely not. ;P

[Fynlar]

Are folks really having that much issue leveling through dungeons? I've leveled every combat class to 60 except mnk (currently 53) and blm (30) and spam dungeons quite a bit, the amount of fail runs I've had is very small compared to the successful runs and I don't believe it's because I'm some godly player that carries groups cause I'm most definitely not. ;P

I think the point was more that their queue times were horrendous as a DPS.

[FinaSel]

Someone had an idea I thought was nice in another thread.

When you get a dungeon in a roulette, you are "locked" into that dungeon any time you choose that roulette until you finish it.
Example: Get AV (or whatever) --> "OMG NOT AV NO!" --> Leave dungeon --> Wait 30 minutes --> Roulette again --> AV again!
Cycle completes until that person finishes AV.

Maybe then people will just finish the first dungeon they get?
And if they have to leave due to some emergency, no problem. They can just do the dungeon again later.

(I think someone had a counter argument to this before but I forgot what it was.)

[Waeksyn]

Why level DPS in dungeons? That's just asking for a bad time.

Leveling in a dungeon is really the only way of learning how to play the role well in a party.

[16bitBounty]

Nonsense, I have all classes at 60 all of them were leveled via fates except Monk/Tanks/Healers. I can play them all just fine in a party except Black Mage and Ninja and that's only because I hate them both and only leveled them to have them leveled.

and yes I was more pointing to the fact that Wait times are horrendous as DPS so you'll level much faster with those classes in fates.

[Jamillion]

Leveling in a dungeon is really the only way of learning how to play the role well in a party.

^^This, the whole fate grind to 60 mentality is why we currently have the problems we do with subpar players.

[Jamillion]

Nonsense, I have all classes at 60 all of them were leveled via fates except Monk/Tanks/Healers. I can play them all just fine in a party except Black Mage and Ninja and that's only because I hate them both and only leveled them to have them leveled.

and yes I was more pointing to the fact that Wait times are horrendous as DPS so you'll level much faster with those classes in fates.

Not nonsense. Most bad players don't know they're bad for one, also you are not some overall template for the majority of the playerbase.

[16bitBounty]

I consider myself a basic casual player. You aren't some judge on who is good or bad either. Step down off that 1337 high horse of yours.

[Jamillion]

I consider myself a basic casual player. You aren't some judge on who is good or bad either. Step down off that 1337 high horse of yours.

Luckily when it comes to numbers it's not a subjective question, an I225 DPS doing 200 DPS is bad in almost every possible scenario.

[16bitBounty]

When the content is i180 it becomes irrelevant.