People leaving the instant a dungeon pops

[Fynlar]

They could do that, but it wouldn't stop people getting lucky with a good dungeon, backing out and soaking their penalty, then going back in with their buddies for that dungeon to get all their roulette rewards for the day. SE would have to implement a system that takes a roulette that you could normally queue for in a party, and then prohibit a party queue if you'd backed out before.

Oh, come on now. Do you really see very many people taking the effort to do something like this? Why would they be queueing a roulette in DF anyway if they had "buddies" to go with?

um what makes you think it isnt already discouraging people from leaving? Will it get rid of it all? Of coarse not, you do not know the actual numbers of people the system detours away from walking out of a dungeon. Working as intended imo.

"actual numbers" are not needed to know that it's "high enough that whatever measures are in place now are not really a deterrent"

How about they change the system so that if you drop out of a roulette dungeon in the first minute, you are flagged so that every time you choose that roulette, you are placed in that dungeon until such time as you clear it (maybe for that day only if you want to be generous).

This has been suggested already and IMO it's probably the best solution I've seen, although they can't be "generous" about it or it'll just be another pointless measure like what's already in place... one day is not enough; needs to be until weekly reset at the very least. It also can't just be "for the first minute" because then people will wait 61 seconds and then drop. Should be whenever you are the first to bail or d/c on a roulette, no matter how long the dungeon has been going.

[Klamor]

Oh, come on now. Do you really see very many people taking the effort to do something like this? Why would they be queueing a roulette in DF anyway if they had "buddies" to go with?

Because it's a possibility. I would probably see just as many people doing this as I see (or actually are) dropping within the first few minutes of the a dungeon that you're in. Maybe it's not the dungeon making them leave, but the players that are in it? Just keepin' it real.

[MeiUshu]

Every time I see this thread I think the exact same thing: "Do these people not have FCs or linkshells?"

I mean really, this is an MMO, meet people and do things.

Even if you have one, doesnt mean you have the number required of people to get into the dungeon WITHOUT going through the DF right ?

[Jamillion]

Even if you have one, doesnt mean you have the number required of people to get into the dungeon WITHOUT going through the DF right ?

That doesn't stop people from asking their FC/Linkshells for help, sure it's not a guaranteed thing but with all of these threads I see I really have to wonder if people even try.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Why do people hate AV so much? It's really not that bad and gives tons of exp.

I'd imagine because people don't know how to Dodge AoE.

[MeiUshu]

That doesn't stop people from asking their FC/Linkshells for help, sure it's not a guaranteed thing but with all of these threads I see I really have to wonder if people even try.

they do but after a while they stop..simply because when no answer, then why bother ?...your reaction is true but doesnt apply to all just because is possible doesnt make it always possible. People have different time, agenda and the like.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Even if you have one, doesnt mean you have the number required of people to get into the dungeon WITHOUT going through the DF right ?

Dungeons required 3 additional people, trials 7. Total of 10 additional players, if you don't have 10 players spread out through a LS or a FC then you need a better more active FC and LS.

[MeiUshu]

Dungeons required 3 additional people, trials 7. Total of 10 additional players, if you don't have 10 players spread out through a LS or a FC then you need a better more active FC and LS.

this is kind of a silly reactions and a very ignorant one, just because maybe you have it easy not everybody does and not everybody can find 3,7 people to play with simply as I said because people have their own agenda and arent always willing, enclined or even online when you need or want or require doing something. Your situation is not this of others and is not a constant. Your uhmm words show a great deal of ignorance of some realities depending also on the server you are on. Blunt statement based simply on LS and FC are really narrowminded opinions, realities are somewhat often different then what you believe it should be like.

[Jetstream_Fox]

this is kind of a silly reactions and a very ignorant one, just because maybe you have it easy not everybody does and not everybody can find 3,7 people to play with simply as I said because people have their own agenda and arent always willing, enclined or even online when you need or want or require doing something. Your situation is not this of others and is not a constant. Your uhmm words show a great deal of ignorance of some realities depending also on the server you are on. Blunt statement based simply on LS and FC are really narrowminded opinions, realities are somewhat often different then what you believe it should be like.

If you don't have with 3-7 people to play with after 2 years of this game being released then you're not doing something right. The reality I live in is that this is a MMORPG and YOU as a player have complete control of who you interact with and how many. You want to mention servers? Ok, here you go, I play on Jenova, one of the smaller, more costly, and tougher servers to play on without a group of people. I've jumped around FCs since I started playing in 2.0. So yes, my situation has many similarities, but I joined and created better and more active linkshells and FCs, which you and anyone can do as well. If you want to have a small group of friends, or none at all, then that is your choice. But you're only hurting yourself if you need something and they're not there. Don't cry about having to wait for a que if you're not even attempting to rectify the problem and certainly don't cry about wanting ridiculous lockouts because someone left your run, because if you haven't noticed having less people to join up IS the reason why ques take so long in the first place.

Having more active FCs and Links aren't opinions, they're options, options you have as player, options that help you. This games communities run on 24 hour 7 day a week schedule minus shutdowns for maintenance, even if you're a player who plays late night or early morning there are still options available to yourself, even if it's not on your server, you still have the options to switch servers and look for players to help you out.

So explain to me how creating opportunities for yourself and using all your available options is narrow minded?

[16bitBounty]

Why level DPS in dungeons? That's just asking for a bad time.