Thread: 3.2 drk vs pld dps

Originally Posted by Brian_

So random spot healing does not really help because it's generally not needed. And, if it is needed, it's a sign you have bigger problems.

If its random then it will do nothing but if you coordinate it with healers you can say what TB's you are healing and what not, then they know when to stay in cleric even when TB is coming and when to turn it off and heal instead. Is this needed? ofc not but it makes PLD atleast slighlty more fun to play.

I have seem some data on the interwebs regarding tank parsing post 3.2 generally its WAR>DRK>PLD. Keep in mind though that dummy numbers will favor WARs (as they bring their own slashing debuff) and can only represent OT dps numbers. PLDs and DRKs damage potential go up in group content (assuming someone brings a slashing debuff). I think a good indicator would be the SSS dummies. There are calculators that ppl have created that can show you how much dps it takes for each class to clear them. Those numbers support the WAR>DRK>PLD OT hierarchy I spoke of. In MT slot DRK wins out in damage potential.

Originally Posted by Jpec07

Also keep in mind that when MT, the difference in DPS output between the tanks is marginal now, such that no tank is really undesirable for the slot for its lack of DPS. OT is really where you see the biggest differences, and even that isn't entirely too severe.

Very true. The meta will always have what it considers to be the "best" compositions, but I don't buy that there is any MT/OT composition that wont work. For all but the most serious progression players the dps differences will be of minor importance.

Originally Posted by Jpec07

Also keep in mind that when MT, the difference in DPS output between the tanks is marginal now, such that no tank is really undesirable for the slot for its lack of DPS. OT is really where you see the biggest differences, and even that isn't entirely too severe.

It is pretty severe though, because of WARs. I love playing WAR in OT when a fight doesn't call for a swap or for the OT to pick up a mob. Being able to focus on DPS as a WAR in deliverance means putting out numbers that compete with melee DPS. DRKs aren't too far behind WAR because Blood Weapon is much better than Blood Price for getting mana off a single target, but PLD loses Shield Swipe procs and that means one less oGCD skill for PLDs, who are already sorely lacking oGCD damage skills.

OT WARs also have near unlimited TP; which is a massive plus for fights where it would matter.

Originally Posted by Destous

It is pretty severe though, because of WARs. I love playing WAR in OT when a fight doesn't call for a swap or for the OT to pick up a mob. Being able to focus on DPS as a WAR in deliverance means putting out numbers that compete with melee DPS. DRKs aren't too far behind WAR because Blood Weapon is much better than Blood Price for getting mana off a single target, but PLD loses Shield Swipe procs and that means one less oGCD skill for PLDs, who are already sorely lacking oGCD damage skills.

OT WARs also have near unlimited TP; which is a massive plus for fights where it would matter.

Wars are not even closely competing with melee dps anymore if they are played at the same lv a war is easily 3 to 500 dps behind a melee, depending which melee you compare against

Originally Posted by Shinzee

Wars are not even closely competing with melee dps anymore if they are played at the same lv a war is easily 3 to 500 dps behind a melee, depending which melee you compare against

Pretty much, if same ilvl dps are competing with an OT warrior......slap your dps.

DRK beats PLD when it comes to OT since most of DRK skills are Dark Art enhanced, Dots have scourge and Salted Earth. I once hit a 1200 or was it 1600 (don't remember the exact value) crit in WoD when trick attack was up and I use Dark Art+ Soul eater. Not to mention I haven't reset my DRK stat points to full VIT, since most of my points are in STR and 2 in PIE ( these are since my noob days and I always forgot to reset it).

is skill speed waste on DRK? should DRK go for more Crt?

Originally Posted by Anera

is skill speed waste on DRK? should DRK go for more Crt?

Crit.

(Sks not a waste but crit is much better)