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    yep sadly i get to the point match making is only broken even if i encounter
    2 gold/2 silver vs 4 gold when we can have 3 gold/1 silver vs 3 gold/1 silver.
    but otherwise i think the game can only make match with players aviable so unbalanced match happen a lot because we are not enough players.
    I never blamed a new healer because it happen. And healers don't realy have a lot of way of training 4vs4 exept this ranked pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    Only -13 points for a loss. Wish my losses only subtracted 13 points lol.

    I get +25 for a win and -13 for a loss at Bronze level, so theoretically rating should raise even with 35% win rate. Are these numbers change with higher ratings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I get +25 for a win and -13 for a loss at Bronze level, so theoretically rating should raise even with 35% win rate. Are these numbers change with higher ratings?
    yeah they will. I'm currently platinium and depending on the other team rating I can lose up to 30 points ( I think it's the maximum you can lose) , and win 17 ( unsure if it's the minimum tough)
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    Elia' Martell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayo View Post
    yeah they will. I'm currently platinium and depending on the other team rating I can lose up to 30 points ( I think it's the maximum you can lose) , and win 17 ( unsure if it's the minimum tough)
    In light party gold teams get +1 and -40 or more for losing lol.
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I get +25 for a win and -13 for a loss at Bronze level, so theoretically rating should raise even with 35% win rate. Are these numbers change with higher ratings?
    Theoretically at bronze I suppose you could progress with a 35% win rate but you would need a much bigger body of work (i.e ALOT of matches) to see progress that slow.

    And yes once you get to gold and higher the losses subtract 25+ points. I've seen losses subtract as much as 30. The wins typically don't net as much points as the losses subtract either. I've had a lot of +18 or +19 point wins because of the presence of platinum in party as well as other variables I don't completely understand.
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    So what you're saying is so few people are into this that it's not always going to be exactly even?



    ...also you're not SE so you don't get to use the word official.
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    Even if there are not enough people nothing explains why there are two Gold in one party and two Bronze of the same role in another. It should be 1 Gold and 1 Bronze in each. Maybe there are some hidden algorithms, like a person with a lose streak is matched with higher ranked players for a higher chance to win. Like PvP echo, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    Even if there are not enough people nothing explains why there are two Gold in one party and two Bronze of the same role in another. It should be 1 Gold and 1 Bronze in each.
    You do have to keep in mind that what is used to match is your rating rather than your rank. Since there are overlaps, a bronze and a silver might very well both have the same rating, except one is doing qualifiers and the other got through already. The same could be said between gold and silver. Even within the same rank, you could have a 900 gold and a 1400 gold and the system has to account for it by giving the 900 gold stronger teammates.

    I think that the issue in this case is one of visibility. Simply showing a rank leaves too much out of the portrait. The easiest fix would be to show actual ratings on the scoreboard. Another solution would be to give some kind of hint of where the player is within the rank. Say "Silver-" if you just made it there and "Silver+" when you are doing gold qualifiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    Even if there are not enough people nothing explains why there are two Gold in one party and two Bronze of the same role in another. It should be 1 Gold and 1 Bronze in each. Maybe there are some hidden algorithms, like a person with a lose streak is matched with higher ranked players for a higher chance to win. Like PvP echo, lol.
    Sadly I guess there is not... Already had many losing streaks and the matchmaking continued to punish me with unranked players...
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