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  1. #61
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    A_Hortensia's Avatar
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    Arista Hortensia
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 70
    On the topic of healer specific woes; I have advice:
    You start with 100 medals. Try to win with at least that many. Preserve your life, don't compromise yourself for an overzealous team member.
    Mark yourself and remind players to stay close to you. Do your best to follow them without surrounding yourself with attackers.
    When insults are thrown, either ignore, or engage the other player passively.
    DPS: "What the hell are you doing? Why aren't you healing? You suck."
    Healer: "Not my problem."
    "I was being disrupted."
    "I need you to stay closer to me."
    "Sorry you feel that way."

    Whatever. I just use: "Not my problem."

    If you or I am really the worst healer ever, I feel as if the other players should be prepared to play differently with that consideration.
    If not, then they should have que'd as healer and became part of the solution. ( ' w ')b
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    '04 FFXI: Shield Kites - Paladin - Mithra - Windurst - Diabolos

  2. #62
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 23
    I've tried the most ungrateful job in PvP - healing, and usually there're no much issues unless teams are unbalanced. Here, Three Golds and Bronze against our two Bronzes (including me), one Gold and one Silver. Of course they have destroyed us, and I was blamed and sh*ttalked by party members (seems like the higher their rating, the more toxic they are). But it's very hard for a Bronze healer to heal through 3 Gold's burst. Focused, stunlocked, silenced, slept, dead.




    2 Golds and 2 Silvers VS 2 Bronze, Silver and Gold. Guess who won.



    I hope they'll fix matchmaking because such matches are completelly unfair.
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  3. #63
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    Zael Magnus
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
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    Sadly there's not much to be done, unless they somehow manage to get considerably more players interested in The Feast. If that were the case, it wouldn't be a problem to match unranked players with unranked and bronze, bronze with unranked and silver and so on. Right now you'd have to stay in queue for hours to get completely fair matches, which would probably result in yet another dead PvP mode; queues are long enough as it is.

    But yes, your frustration is understandable. Many experienced players tend to forget that there was a time when they were new to PvP and that it can be very overwhelming at times, especially if you start your PvP "career" in The Feast - I just started PvPing like 3-4 weeks ago, did a few frontlines first, and have about 60 Feast games played by now and I can't tell you how often I was flamed for slightly misusing my melee LB or overextending because of inexperience; well, pretty much every time it happened. I even encountered a Platinum WHM once who blamed me for screwing up my LB even though they used Fluid Aura on my LB-target while I was in the animation. That's the kind of arrogance and ignorance that actually makes me speechless IRL.

    Also, like two weeks back when I was still in Bronze, I had an unranked Healer on my team who lost me/us three matches in a row, because they had no idea how PvP worked and were unaware of the existence of PvP skills. I tried talking to them after the game/s, giving a few tips and suggesting to play some frontlines first to get used to PvP skills, both their own and of other classes/roles. Meanwhile the two other players left with something like "fcking useless healer" and wishing them a painful death (I sugarcoated that btw), which is more than just a little screwed up. Admittedly, they shouldn't have queued for ranked with zero PvP experience but the hate and toxic behavior of some people really reminds me of my time playing LoL, doesn't even matter if they were Bronze or Diamond.

    End of rant. *g*

    EDIT: The above doesn't mean that I didn't encounter nice, communicative and just fun-to-play-with players, because I did. They were just few and in between compared to the toxic and/or uncommunicative crowd.
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    Last edited by aeoncs; 05-27-2016 at 04:39 AM.

  4. #64
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    Dimitrii's Avatar
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post


    Only -13 points for a loss. Wish my losses only subtracted 13 points lol.
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    yep sadly i get to the point match making is only broken even if i encounter
    2 gold/2 silver vs 4 gold when we can have 3 gold/1 silver vs 3 gold/1 silver.
    but otherwise i think the game can only make match with players aviable so unbalanced match happen a lot because we are not enough players.
    I never blamed a new healer because it happen. And healers don't realy have a lot of way of training 4vs4 exept this ranked pvp.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    Only -13 points for a loss. Wish my losses only subtracted 13 points lol.

    I get +25 for a win and -13 for a loss at Bronze level, so theoretically rating should raise even with 35% win rate. Are these numbers change with higher ratings?
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  7. #67
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    Fate Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I get +25 for a win and -13 for a loss at Bronze level, so theoretically rating should raise even with 35% win rate. Are these numbers change with higher ratings?
    yeah they will. I'm currently platinium and depending on the other team rating I can lose up to 30 points ( I think it's the maximum you can lose) , and win 17 ( unsure if it's the minimum tough)
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  8. #68
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I get +25 for a win and -13 for a loss at Bronze level, so theoretically rating should raise even with 35% win rate. Are these numbers change with higher ratings?
    Theoretically at bronze I suppose you could progress with a 35% win rate but you would need a much bigger body of work (i.e ALOT of matches) to see progress that slow.

    And yes once you get to gold and higher the losses subtract 25+ points. I've seen losses subtract as much as 30. The wins typically don't net as much points as the losses subtract either. I've had a lot of +18 or +19 point wins because of the presence of platinum in party as well as other variables I don't completely understand.
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  9. #69
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    So what you're saying is so few people are into this that it's not always going to be exactly even?



    ...also you're not SE so you don't get to use the word official.
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  10. #70
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    Even if there are not enough people nothing explains why there are two Gold in one party and two Bronze of the same role in another. It should be 1 Gold and 1 Bronze in each. Maybe there are some hidden algorithms, like a person with a lose streak is matched with higher ranked players for a higher chance to win. Like PvP echo, lol.
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