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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    Other people are ranking higher than you and it's not "all luck" they just carry better.
    Some rolls can carry better than others :< The top primal centre players are all melee dps, save for one healer that brute-forced his way there by doing waaay more matches than the others on the list, simply because that's what you HAVE to do as healer if you want to be in the top 100, let alone top 10.
    Which means, it CAN be about luck. If you have a melee dps on your team that knows what they are doing, you are much more likely to win than getting a melee dps that doesn't.
    Some roles are more broken than others too. I just LOVE it when I am slept/stunned/silenced continuously in a match because I am against a PLD+WHM+BLM combo when I have a DRK,SMN combo while I am on astro.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 05-11-2016 at 01:24 AM.

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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Some rolls can carry better than others :.
    Random and luck things like what you listed dissipate with time.

    You might get those bad combinations but you can also get the favored combination. People like to focus their negative experiences.

    In the very long run with ranking. Aka the more matches you play these things matter less and less when you're looking at the whole picture of every run you've ever done.

    It's why poker players can repeat wins.

    If the system ranked you forever based off 5 matches if agree with you.

    The reason fighting games have BO5 or 7 in grand finals vs Bo3. The more matches the players have to play the less likely something like luck can alter who is the victor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    In the very long run with ranking. Aka the more matches you play these things matter less and less when you're looking at the whole picture of every run you've ever done.
    Actually, it feels like it matters more and more. The frustration levels increase with every match that is bad. I got the mount in pre-season. I have done 300+ matches since the first season hit. The more you play, the more broken it feels as you find more and more things that are wrong with it. It outright makes the people who actually care about the feast, quit.
    Why play something that isn't fair? Why go for the top 100 or top 10 when there's so much luck involved.
    Someone can be like "Yeah I'm top 10!" and people can easily just dismiss your achievements with "you got really lucky. I was above 10th place, but then I had a string of bad luck." "I can't carry with my class like you can carry with yours, since it's so obviously broken. You just play that class because it's easy wins."
    The fact that people have stopped playing because they are afraid of the bad luck that will ruin their score shouldn't be a thing.
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    Matchmaking is fine, believe me, GW2 was much worse.... Square did a really nice job on PVP here... There are still some problems that could be fixed....

    1) Lack of people... Thats why matchmaking doesnt work so well as it should... idk what to do about that, better rewards ?

    2) Lots of people trying to feed pvp, be afk for winning etc... More punishment for these guys... people trying to rank theirselves up without fair play...
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensatsu View Post
    what i love with this nice matchmaking is Bronze or not ranked player submitting great strategies : and asking other player to follow one bad strategie
    For exemple :
    The healer is bad, everyone on the healer...
    If the healer is so bad, tank will solo it, there no need to focus healers if he is bad.
    Realy
    I don't really agree with this actually. If I know a healer is really bad I will repeatedly focus and kill that healer as dps. Seeing your healer die repeatedly and effortlessly is so demoralizing for that other team it practically hands you the victory. Where as if you give him a break and don't bear down on em you can give them a better shot at playing well. Some people just can't handle curing under pressure I always attack those people mercilessly and relentlessly. Though on the flip side there are some heals who are better at keeping themselves alive rather than their team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    If I know a healer is really bad I will repeatedly focus and kill that healer as dps. Seeing your healer die repeatedly and effortlessly is so demoralizing for that other team it practically hands you the victory.
    You... monster!!! :P

    But seriously, this guy is right. This really is how it works. If you PvP enough, you recognize the people on the other team, and you usually inform your team about their strengths/weaknesses. "That healer is bad, burn him down fast." ... Or, "That dps is good, keep them CCed as much as you can." If the healer is the weak point, you burn them down quick, put the rest of the team to route, and burn down any stragglers. It's sad and demoralizing to the other team... and I almost feel bad for them... but I know that if the situation were reversed, no one would show me mercy... so... it is what it is. That said, it's really not 'fun' because you're just taking advantage of the fact that the other team got paired up with a weak healer. There's not much skill behind that.
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    Last edited by Ryuko; 05-11-2016 at 06:07 AM.

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    Sometimes I like to troll... Just saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fodemhouse View Post
    Sometimes I like to troll... Just saying...
    We all do from time to time.
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    Waltheof Wenyasch
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I know it sounds like I am bitching but I can only handle a few runs of the feast. I am not ranked but I use to be before it reset me for the season then I just got fed up from that work and stopped doing it because I remember why I stopped. I can only heal because I get impatient on DPS ques and the moment I switch to a healer it's an insta-que. That is the first flag, not a lot of people like healing it because elitist and die hard PVPers put a lot of hate and pressure on the healers. I would run into great parties that would actually stick around me because they know my heals cannot reach them on the other side of the wall but when the time comes that people will swarm me and I die and then the party dies it all the sudden becomes my fault we lost after the party has understood the fact that attacking the healer wins but I get no help but all the blame. I spend my time and energy healing the party members but when I get swarmed I have to heal myself or I die. (c)
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    Waltheof Wenyasch
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    It's pretty unfair of just how much toxic hate healers get for one slip up. I understand, one mistake can cost a game. I have only a few seconds for crowd control if the party is doing well keeping themselves a live but when it comes to attacking me, I put more energy into keeping myself alive than just the party because if I die, then the party dies.

    It's such a buzz kill and I wish all i could do is Tank/DPS it but it just isn't fair why healers get the hate for everything.
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