Matchmaking Is OFFICIALLY Broken

[Kyani]

Aether's match thrower? You mean someone's gotten a reputation for being a prick doing that kind of stuff? Well, this is the internet after all, so I shouldn't be surprised. The only solace I've found is that problems like that solve themselves. He wants that reputation, but it's exactly that kind of reputation that will get him banned shortly. I really don't know what's wrong with people doing things like that, when it only makes them easier to pick out and remove.

They've been reported dozens of times every week since Feast's very onset. The sticky forum post in this forum is about this person. Every week, she shows up, without fail, and throws another 45 matches.

She's still not banned.

[StrejdaTom]

Dayum, I have just made similar thread to find out it already exists. Should have read more.

So far I thought that the opposing team's rating is somehow average of my team's rating. OP proved me wrong. But even if it was perfect average, I would be against it.
Having gold DPS but bronze healer when opposing team has bronze DPS and gold healer isn't even close to being a fair fight.

Greetings,
The matching system for the Feast is currently working as intended. Yoshi-P touched on how matching for the Feast is handled in a previous post.

Then you guys should have intended it in different way.

[Fuma]

This thread should really be renamed to... "Matchmaking isn't working to my advantage"

If it's so broken then why is it not for others? Other people are successful its just that you are not and instead of blaming your own ability it's easier to blame it on others or the devs. Those people with higher rating have the same issue and conditions as you. Small team pvp such as 4v4 is tough, it is in other MMOs and it is here as well. Don't like the people you get randomly teamed up with? Form a ranked 4v4 team. They have that in here just for that reason but be forewarned it's going to be even more competitive there... Also if you're basing everything off someone's tier then you clearly don't know how matchmaking works in PvP games.

SE needs to hire Terry Tate forum linebacker for threads like these...

[NessaWyvern]

Form a ranked 4v4 team.
They have that in here just for that reason but be forewarned it's going to be even more competitive there...

In primal, the most competative aspect of 4v4 partied is who can get the longest wait-timer. And even.... there's no competition because they're all in the same party!
Sometimes 4v4 partied pops, but it's usually just the same 1 team over and over and over.

[Nalien]

Those people with higher rating have the same issue and conditions as you.

I really don't think this is the case, considering how many people who got Gold have seemingly just stopped at this point... They got Gold when everyone was still playing, there were plenty of players kicking around who actually know what they're doing, sure they'd still get paired up with the odd idiot when climbing to Gold, but with a higher playerbase of people who know what they're doing comes a higher chance of playing matches which aren't pathetic... Now that seemingly half the top 100 aren't even playing, with more still settling on maybe a couple matches (based on low rating changes) and who knows how many competent people in Silver who've just given up... The number of people who know what they're doing in Feast has dropped noticeably, at least for me there is a very noticeable difference in match ups between last week and this week, pretty much a complete 180. Matches just aren't fun anymore, because the majority of people who know what they're doing and are fun to play with/against have stopped playing...

People are done with Feast, as such the conditions have changed. SE failed to make matchmaking and the rewards appealing enough for a significant number of people to bother pushing past landing in the top 100. The result is people get into the top 100 and either stop out right, or significantly tone down their playtime, meaning everyone left behind no longer has the benefit of their company. Am I saying I want them to carry me to Gold? Hell no, I want to play against them as much as I want to play with them, because those matches were actually fun, regardless of the outcome... Now that plenty are just stopping though, it's only a matter of time until the remainder stop, because of this exact issue... It's a problem that's only going to get worse...

Not that matchmaking is the only problem, but if things were fine, people wouldn't be quitting while they're ahead... Matchmaking can pair you with a player way out of your league, and as such it isn't worth the risk to continue playing... I don't think anyone can call Feast a success at this point, too many players are dropping out... That's just what we see at the top of the leaderboard, too... Lord knows what is happening down at the bottom... Can't imagine it's good though, new players get matched with people going for Gold and either get chewed out by their team, or utterly destroyed by the higher rank they're matched against... Doubt they'll stay interested in PvP for long with matches like that... This broad matchmaking might be good for queue times, but if anyone thinks it's good for the PvP community in the long run, I'd love to hear why...

[NessaWyvern]

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Exactly, when all the good players were playing it was much more fun. I get most of my wins when full silver teams vs full silver teams, and full gold teams vs full gold teams.

[Nalien]

Exactly, when all the good players were playing it was much more fun. I get most of my wins when full silver teams vs full silver teams, and full gold teams vs full gold teams.

The main issue with matching anyone with Unranked/Bronze, is that Unranked/Bronze are non-ranks... Unranked absolutely is, and Bronze is really just a matter of time, so ultimately the same as Unranked IMO...

This is why I'd quite like to see tiers introduced to the ranks... Then you can still match a Silver with a Bronze, but that Bronze will be a higher tier Bronze, who we can reasonably assume has some clue what they're doing. Matching with just any Bronze just makes it a shot in the dark... They could be a really good player who just started out and is climbing, or they could be someone who has been stuck losing for weeks, as a rank "Bronze" doesn't give any indication of that... It really makes no sense to pair someone like that with someone advancing through Silver...

Arguably tiered ranks would spread the playerbase thin and create queue issues, but at this point I don't really care... I'd take 30m queues if it meant I was being matched with people of a similar skill level over <5m queues for people who don't know what Purify is... I'd say the current system is actively turning people away anyway, people in the top 100 certainly are and I'd bet it's worse at the bottom... People might be more willing to play if they're not worried about being paired with people way out of their league...

So long as SE leaves Wolf Marks as fairly worthless rewards, we're always going to have an issue with queues though... I really wish SE would focus on that, instead of giving us new modes that'll die out within a year...

[Fodemhouse]

Another point... Unranked healers should NEVER play with ranked people... NEVER... Thats the only case square should try and adjust... Even if u have 3 silver on your team, but u have an unranked healer, u are doomed... Cause the other team will have silvers also and a good healer... so u are screwed anyway...

[CrystalRainbow]

This is honestly why I don't want to do PVP...

I liked PVP is earlier forums in FFXIV, But the RAGE because it matter know turns me off.

[Critical-Limit]

This thread should really be renamed to... "Matchmaking isn't working to my advantage"

Not everyone has a proper competitive mindset when you should ask yourself what can *I* do to improve my situation.

To be the best in a rankin system that has random teamates. You're gonna have to carry. You're gonna have to learn to call shots, and sometimes even learn other jobs and roles so you can direct clueless teamates toward a reachable goal. See someone going out on their own, call them back instead of waiting for them to die in a 4v1. Silently curse your "luck" and complain on the forums.

Other people are ranking higher than you and it's not "all luck" they just carry better.