SAMURAI SHOWDOWN

[Ciri_Wolf]

DRK has a history of using swords in ff. Didn't stop them from getting a scythe in XI. Bards have never used bows in ff before, but in XIV they do. Classes don't need to follow other past variations.

[Shippuu]

DRK has a history of using swords in ff. Didn't stop them from getting a scythe in XI. Bards have never used bows in ff before, but in XIV they do. Classes don't need to follow other past variations.

FFXI which supported multiple weapons per job allowed DRK to still wield greatswords, as well as the DRK unlock quest and main NPC also involved greatswords and not scythes. And bards couldn't use bows? Funny that, cause the Spoony bard Edward from ff4 could certainly equip bows.

You're right though and things don't have to necessarily follow the precedent set by past games but that doesn't change the fact that there's absolutely plenty of merit to making samurai a tank.

[Khalithar]

Didn't stop them from getting a scythe in XI.

Unrelated to the thread but I'm going to say it anyway, as a drk main from FFXI I really miss my scythe. T.T

Edit: I'm also going to repeat something I said earlier that I didn't notice anyone respond to. Sam was originally intended to be the tank job for HW right? The way I interpret that, is that they were already working on and designing samurai tank but at some stage in it's development they stopped and said "let's do dark knight instead." I really don't think that means the samurai tank idea as a whole got scrapped, merely pushed back. I strongly believe they are going to finish it from whatever stage of development it was at and give us the version of the tank they envisioned for HW originally before drk.

[ShinMetsu]

Everyone trying to get SAM on their side :>
SAM is hands down one of my favorite jobs, along with NIN, i love that eastern martial arts culture.
But i actually am a career tank, because i love tanking.
With that being said, even though i love SAM and tanking, I don't really wanna see SAM as a tank because i've always seen it as one of the ultimate offensive destructive jobs, so i feel like SAM would be misplaced as tank.
Even though i am a career tank and will stay a career tank.

In regards to the arguments about armor, well... I don't think usual SAM gear counts as full plate tank gear.
But it doesn't matter anyway in my opinion, so what? DRG uses heavy armor too, there even is specific gear shared between tanks and DRG, yet they don't tank.
Then you have MNK, it doesn't wear any heavy gear, yet it could actually tank in 1.0, it even had a Taunt.
Which makes all the armor arguments fly right out of the window really.

[Ciri_Wolf]

FFXI which supported multiple weapons per job allowed DRK to still wield greatswords, as well as the DRK unlock quest and main NPC also involved greatswords and not scythes. And bards couldn't use bows? Funny that, cause the Spoony bard Edward from ff4 could certainly equip bows.

You're right though and things don't have to necessarily follow the precedent set by past games but that doesn't change the fact that there's absolutely plenty of merit to making samurai a tank.

I meant more that bards were not archers. But yeah samurai has enough merit to be a tank. Same with every class. I just hope it's not. For biased reasons.

[ADVSS]

I meant more that bards were not archers. But yeah samurai has enough merit to be a tank. Same with every class. I just hope it's not. For biased reasons.

lol ff4 edward that spoony bard, even ran from battle if he was low on hp and not healed right then and there.

[Ciri_Wolf]

lol ff4 edward that spoony bard, even ran from battle if he was low on hp and not healed right then and there.

Edward, one of the most unique and frustrating members to ever have in an rpg party.

[Xlantaa]

Well. I was looking a artwork for Samruai Rising, android game developed by Square Enix, which takes the jobs from final fantasy which make almost all classes look like samurai or eastern like (not all of them).

What a bout a Red Mage Samurai DPS and classic Samurai tank (or viceversa)? Yes, overcharged with too many eastern things, but, eh, I wanna dream too and this can put a end to the discussion and make all happy (almost all).

Well ok, no one wil lbe happy but is a idea...

I think this one is the Red Mage

I admit I like that Red Mage.

[Laerune]

I think this one is the Red Mage

I admit I like that Red Mage.

I have looked it up and that is the Red Wizard, since I reckon Red Wizard = Red Mage, you are correct and that is the Red Mage. The girl on the front with the pretty outfit is called the Ying Yang Master (Onmyoji).

http://2p.com/42299885_1/Samurai-Ris...shaylynsun.htm

http://2p.com/42141691_1/Square-Enix...g-by-Aaron.htm

[ADVSS]

I have looked it up and that is the Red Wizard, since I reckon Red Wizard = Red Mage, you are correct and that is the Red Mage. The girl on the front with the pretty outfit is called the Ying Yang Master (Onmyoji).

http://2p.com/42299885_1/Samurai-Ris...shaylynsun.htm

http://2p.com/42141691_1/Square-Enix...g-by-Aaron.htm

interesting links the samurai in that....could go either dps or tank by the looks of it, I guess the debate continues