SAMURAI SHOWDOWN

[Nicobo]

I dunno, I can totally see Samurai being a tank.

It's original intention in XI was a tank with it's Seigan and Third Eye ability.

The player-base turned it into the DPS only that it is now.....

SAM was made as a DD, SE did introduce SAM as a DD when it released. ^^;

[Gilraen]

My major wants for Samurai and Red Mage is a return to nations. Samurai a Gridanian tank and Red Mage an Ul'dahn healer. This is the current failing of the present spread of Jobs in the game. The Extra Jobs each represent one of the three party disciplines and are all in Ishgard. Limsa Lominsa has at least one class/Job for each of the three party disciplines. Ul'dah only has tank and DD represented and Gridania only has healer and DD. This is a disparity that needs be fixed!

[silentwindfr]

Yoshida have said that the sam will be a dps.

about the roster, the game only count the jobs like this:
- tank (drk/war/pld)
- healer (whm/ast/sch)
- melee dps (mnk/nin/drg)
- ranged dps (smn/blm/mch/brd)

it's the player that make the difference between physical ranged and magical ranged, what is important is the position while the fight, not how you deal damage...

another point, we will not have 3 jobs release at the same time, yoshida was clear after the release of HW. it way too much work in terms of balance and such to add soo many jobs (especially if you count that a few month before they had added the nin)

finally, add another tank right now is pointless, since they already have some trouble to balance the three we already have. plus what sort of tank will be the sam?
- offensive one? we do have the war
- one based on parry? war and drk are doing the same
- one based mainly on physical damage? war one more time
- one using a 2hand weapon? war another time...

too many point are too similar with the other jobs already present... without forget that we already have 1h and 2h sword class as tank...

[Alacran]

Yoshida have said that the sam will be a dps.

about the roster, the game only count the jobs like this:
- tank (drk/war/pld)
- healer (whm/ast/sch)
- melee dps (mnk/nin/drg)
- ranged dps (smn/blm/mch/brd.


it's the player that make the difference between physical ranged and magical ranged, what is important is the position while the fight, not how you deal damage...

another point, we will not have 3 jobs release at the same time, yoshida was clear after the release of HW. it way too much work in terms of balance and such to add soo many jobs (especially if you count that a few month before they had added the nin)

finally, add another tank right now is pointless, since they already have some trouble to balance the three we already have. plus what sort of tank will be the sam?
- offensive one? we do have the war
- one based on parry? war and drk are doing the same
- one based mainly on physical damage? war one more time
- one using a 2hand weapon? war another time...

too many point are too similar with the other jobs already present... without forget that we already have 1h and 2h sword class as tank...

Up to the minute of selection both DRK and SAM were considered for tank duty in Heavensward. Art assets, skills, gameplay mechanics, themes could very well have been ready to go. With the launch of a new expansion, would it not make sense to use already developed concepts to save production time?

On another note what about the over all presentation of the Samurai? Through out history and myth few times will you find depictions of the dishonorable Samurai that attacks the enemy from anywhere but head on. Part of the reason we want the job/ class so bad in the game is because of those very same depictions of Heroic Samurai facing evil head on.

[Awful]

There will always be a shortage of tanks in DF in every MMO it's like that, for SAM I personally hope it's a DPS as for Red Mage I have no idea what it'll be we'll have to wait n see. They might not even add SAM or Red before they add another class we'll just have to wait and see what SE does.

3 tanks is enough as they introduced a new healer, a new tank and a new DPS in their new expac it'll most likely go to a new magical DPS since we only have SMN and BLM since people have been wanting a new magic dmg class and in 4.0 we might be getting gunblade/gunmage as we're going to take the fight to the Garleans.

[ArikDimas]

I'd rather have samurai be a dps over tank mainly because I don't want a third sword using tank.

[Bigcat9715]

So tanking or.....

[DWolfwood]

So tanking or.....

Why not both? That was the topic of the thread <______<

[Derio]

Most likely will be a dps. However is red mage outside of 4.0 or will it be included in 4.0?

[AlphaFox]

I still vote DPS for Samurai but only cus I want some kind of sword user as a DPS. They always seem to end up as the tank in some degree. Also to note, while I recall them saying they won't release 3 jobs at the same time, that wouldn't stop them from say releasing 2 new jobs then during 4.2 release a 3rd.