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    Player Jhett_Magnum's Avatar
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    Zanku Hado
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    I'm by all means no lore expert, but the whole samurai thing is from Doma right?

    Which is where the Au Ra come from...

    Since Dark Knight makes sense with the Xaela lore being that Dark Knights abilities are said to come from watching panthers.
    (DRK mount description) So them being nomadic and hunters etc..i can see the relationship .

    Wouldn't Raen clans leading a more solitary life wouldn't need to be so heavily armored and be a tank?
    Their naming conventions are even based on old Japan so clearly I think it's safe to say we can associate samurai with the Raen.
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    So, what the...? Do you even know what a Samurai is? o.O
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    Player Jhett_Magnum's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    So, what the...? Do you even know what a Samurai is? o.O
    Er no, not to a science, but please enlighten me. I'm just curious about all this, because this job peaks my intrest more than RDM now.

    Haha I knew trying my hand at lore would be catastrophic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhett_Magnum View Post
    Er no, not to a science, but please enlighten me. I'm just curious about all this, because this job peaks my intrest more than RDM now.

    Haha I knew trying my hand at lore would be catastrophic.
    The cometary was about that Anime pics that people was posting, maybe I should be more specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    The cometary was about that Anime pics that people was posting, maybe I should be more specific.
    Yeah it's whatever the Japanese decide they are - however they decide to represent them - as they no longer exist.

    However a few key points would be they were essentially well trained soldiers that followed a certain moral code called "Bushido" and were weapons experts in several forms of combat including hand-to-hand martial arts.

    All that said there is no, real, true "Samurai" nor is there a real, true, "Knight" as many-a-video and paper have explained. It's far too broad a term over far too broad a time period to say any one thing is a "proper" Samurai or Knight. There are just several incarnations over periods of time.
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    Aaliyah Rose
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    We will definately see SAM in the next expansion have an ability called...

    ***Iai - Draw and slash in one motion. charge to max power for a guaranteed critical.***

    If we were to translate Iai into FFXIV as an ability, would it do the following?

    1. grant a stacking buff to buff an attribute?
    2. become a key mechanic that will rely heavily on Critical damage?
    or 3. simply combo into another weaponskill?

    Much like DRG has had Jump
    MNK has Boost (or in this game, Meditation.)
    DRK has Darkside.
    etc...
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    Last edited by Aaliyahrose; 04-30-2016 at 05:53 AM.

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    Selena Schwarz
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    Samurai Lv 90
    You guys can't think outside the box is all I'm getting out of all of this. Not everyone, and especially those who say heavier armor = tanks only, and tanks = heavy armor only. Can I (we) have some much, much needed variety, please?
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    K'phel Nruan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    You guys can't think outside the box is all I'm getting out of all of this. Not everyone, and especially those who say heavier armor = tanks only, and tanks = heavy armor only. Can I (we) have some much, much needed variety, please?
    If you deviate too from what a samurai is then it is no longer a samurai.

    Variety is nice but not at the cost of the base idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handheld View Post
    If you deviate too from what a samurai is then it is no longer a samurai.

    Variety is nice but not at the cost of the base idea.
    Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

    In the FF franchise, what makes something a job is their signature abilities and to a certain degree (ones more than others), their weapons. Prime example is DRG, you can't call something a dragoon just because they wield a spear if you're not gonna give them Jump. Now, about this tank vs DD argument going on, stop this "heavy armor means it's only allowed to tank". By that logic (and the logic used before and after XIV), something wielding a big-as-me sword should be a massive damage dealer (and in this case, it really should've been), same with a great axe user. They already did that to DRK, which I'm not getting into *again*, let's not turn another armor user into a tank just because it uses armor. Let's focus on the weapon (which, mind you, is what this game is supposed to focus on, based on the Armoury system, and not the armor).
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    Last edited by Tanathya; 04-30-2016 at 02:57 AM.

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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Whatever they do with Samurai won't ever top this guy.



    Edit: If anything those bums are gonna either plop fending or maiming gear on Sammy.
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    Last edited by MagiusNecros; 04-30-2016 at 01:35 AM.

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