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  1. #121
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidias View Post
    Then my request is please make the cosplay outfits (Scion gear, FFXII gear, etc) unisex, as well as their hairstyles. I honestly don't see why male characters can't have Lightning's hair or Y'shtola's hair, especially when female characters can wear Aymeric's hair for example.
    Simple, Minfilias gear would need to be redesigned for males because it is entirely designed around a bust being present, same with the Lyse gear for that matter. I want unisex gear, but I fully understand that these outfits are originally designed around a gendered model, and some really wouldn't work without redesigns, and for the sake of fairness (because the ones that don't work are female) they are all genderlocked.

    Hairstyles though, why not.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 11-29-2017 at 11:37 AM.

  2. #122
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Simple, Minfilias gear would need to be redesigned for males because it is entirely designed around a bust being present, same with the Lyse gear for that matter. I want unisex gear, but I fully understand that these outfits are originally designed around a gendered model, and some really wouldn't work without redesigns, and for the sake of fairness (because the ones that don't work are female) they are all genderlocked.
    I think male characters in this game need more chest windows >w>
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  3. #123
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Simple, Minfilias gear would need to be redesigned for males because it is entirely designed around a bust being present, same with the Lyse gear for that matter.
    I would be satisfied with the breast-covering pieces of both outfits just being absent on men (in Minfilia's case the white part could be joined up like the Elezen hempen top or made into a basic crop top like some of the swimwear). It's the easiest solution, just deleting some polygons, and (especially in Lyse's case) still gives us a nice, unique set of items to use since open-fronted jackets and shorts are like gold dust. I'd love Minfilia's hair, too.

    The 'NPC outfits have to respect the NPC's gender' rule is frequently broken for girls (Aymeric's hair, all of the male FF character veteran outfits). They only started enforcing it on the cash shop to shut us all up about the inequality in the first place :/
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  4. #124
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    James Oakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    I would be satisfied with the breast-covering pieces of both outfits just being absent on men (in Minfilia's case the white part could be joined up like the Elezen hempen top or made into a basic crop top like some of the swimwear). It's the easiest solution, just deleting some polygons, and (especially in Lyse's case) still gives us a nice, unique set of items to use since open-fronted jackets and shorts are like gold dust. I'd love Minfilia's hair, too.

    The 'NPC outfits have to respect the NPC's gender' rule is frequently broken for girls (Aymeric's hair, all of the male FF character veteran outfits). They only started enforcing it on the cash shop to shut us all up about the inequality in the first place :/
    Lyse doesn't really seem to have a bust, easiest way to make it male is just remove that binding and then it will a jacket version of the open moonfair shirt we got a while back
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  5. #125
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Lyse doesn't really seem to have a bust, easiest way to make it male is just remove that binding and then it will a jacket version of the open moonfair shirt we got a while back
    And if they're morally opposed to having men run around in booty shorts they can widen and lengthen hers a little to make them our first-ever mid-thigh shorts without slits, holes, or doo-dads attached to them.

    SE is really backwards with locking stuff. If it isn't discriminatory, it's arbitrary. Either make equal numbers of gear or give everyone the same stuff with the necessary alterations. Jeez.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    And if they're morally opposed to having men run around in booty shorts they can widen and lengthen hers a little to make them our first-ever mid-thigh shorts without slits, holes, or doo-dads attached to them.

    SE is really backwards with locking stuff. If it isn't discriminatory, it's arbitrary. Either make equal numbers of gear or give everyone the same stuff with the necessary alterations. Jeez.
    I can't see how they added speedos as dungeon gear
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  7. #127
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    Ark Vuilocand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    The 'NPC outfits have to respect the NPC's gender' rule is frequently broken for girls (Aymeric's hair, all of the male FF character veteran outfits). They only started enforcing it on the cash shop to shut us all up about the inequality in the first place :/
    i have been woke :'o (also props to serilda and many others for advocating so hard. you all are great)
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    Last edited by killstein; 12-02-2017 at 06:29 AM.

  8. #128
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    And if they're morally opposed to having men run around in booty shorts they can widen and lengthen hers a little to make them our first-ever mid-thigh shorts without slits, holes, or doo-dads attached to them.

    SE is really backwards with locking stuff. If it isn't discriminatory, it's arbitrary. Either make equal numbers of gear or give everyone the same stuff with the necessary alterations. Jeez.
    The level 70 monk relic gear shorts aren't terribly long, neither were the level 50 paladin relic shorts. Granted they're longer than the shorts for Lyse's outfit, but they could always adjust the length for the male variant.

    Though this gets me thinking, a lot of the ARR gear had gender variants. So far I think only the Shi Sui set has had it since.

    I've been thinking since released that Lyse's outfit could have EASILY been modded for male models too, just as was suggested. Remove the chest binding, lengthen the shorts.
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  9. #129
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Just thought I would necro-thread this thread, seeing as we're finally get the Male Bunny Suits sometime in the 4.3x cycle. >w>
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  10. #130
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    I was initially a little unhappy with the final design for the male bunny suit, and I'm withholding final judgement until I can actually try it on my character, but after mulling it over I think I'm pleased with the result. A 1:1 unlock may not be the most flattering thing they could do, but it's the most fair, which is ultimately better.

    Now that we've got this, though, I hope they'll get to work on some of the other requests that have been made. Muy main worry now is that they might think just releasing the bunny suit will 'shut us up ' or something and we'll end up right back where we started.
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