The cooldown reset on A8s is unbearable

[Alistaire]

SSS already resets cooldowns

Exactly. If there was a possible abuse out of this people would have already done it, and would still do it thru SSS if it were implemented in raids.

[Cnidarian]

Exactly. If there was a possible abuse out of this people would have already done it, and would still do it thru SSS if it were implemented in raids.

People do abuse the reset on SSS already. The difference is that abusing this on SSS doesn't have an impact anyone outside of the person cheating the system. Just because you do not know of the methods to abuse it, does not mean it doesn't exist. There are a few videos that have been published where this abuse was obvious (i.e. having buffs running when the SSS starts allowing them to double dip on those buffs).

[Noxifer]

(i.e. having buffs running when the SSS starts allowing them to double dip on those buffs).

Well... a wipe (i.e. death) removes all buffs anyway, so...?

[Cnidarian]

Well... a wipe (i.e. death) removes all buffs anyway, so...?

I suggest you read the entire thread, as others have provided hypothetical situations in which a boss wipe does not necessarily equate to a full raid wipe. Granted those are hypothetical situations, the Devs would have to account for their possibility when implementing a cooldown reset. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for cooldown reset after a wipe as it's annoying having to wait. But, I'd rather they did it in a way that prevents it being abused instead of just doing it and fixing the abuse after the fact.

[Noxifer]

I suggest you read the entire thread, as others have provided hypothetical situations in which a boss wipe does not necessarily equate to a full raid wipe. Granted those are hypothetical situations, the Devs would have to account for their possibility when implementing a cooldown reset. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for cooldown reset after a wipe as it's annoying having to wait. But, I'd rather they did it in a way that prevents it being abused instead of just doing it and fixing the abuse after the fact.

and yet others have provided solutions to those hypothetical situations (as in, don't combine the cooldown reset with boss reset, but with the reviving; that way only the people who actually engaged the boss and died would "benefit" from it).

Edit: Reviving at start, that is. Not being Raised. So in case of a "partial wipe", you couldn't have someone raise them to just outside to save them the run back. If you did, they'd have cooldowns on any CDs they'd used AND have the rez debuff.

[Gokuhan]

People do abuse the reset on SSS already. The difference is that abusing this on SSS doesn't have an impact anyone outside of the person cheating the system. Just because you do not know of the methods to abuse it, does not mean it doesn't exist. There are a few videos that have been published where this abuse was obvious (i.e. having buffs running when the SSS starts allowing them to double dip on those buffs).

So what if people are "abusing" this and double dipping. It's a single player dps meter and has zero impact on any actual raids. People only hurt themselves by inflating their own numbers as they will be weaker in an actual raid.
Even if this is a problem or a concern that it could be abused in actual raids, the devs could have all magic/skill based buffs stripped when entering these areas.

[Cnidarian]

So what if people are "abusing" this and double dipping. It's a single player dps meter and has zero impact on any actual raids. People only hurt themselves by inflating their own numbers as they will be weaker in an actual raid.
Even if this is a problem or a concern that it could be abused in actual raids, the devs could have all magic/skill based buffs stripped when entering these areas.

Sigh, I suggest you read what that post was in relation to. In fact, I'm a little confused at your entire post since you essentially rephrased everything I stated in an effort to counter my point? My post was in regards to someone stating that since SSS resets all cooldowns, if the possibility of abuse was present, people would already be abusing it. My post stated that people do in fact abuse the cooldown reset and then I go into stating essentially everything you said in the first half of your post.

[Nestama]

My post stated that people do in fact abuse the cooldown reset and then I go into stating essentially everything you said in the first half of your post.

Which is why people (like myself) suggest that you only get CD's reset if you release (so you need to be KO'd and then be removed from the battlefield). This way the only thing you're waiting on is MP.

[Alistaire]

People do abuse the reset on SSS already. The difference is that abusing this on SSS doesn't have an impact anyone outside of the person cheating the system. Just because you do not know of the methods to abuse it, does not mean it doesn't exist. There are a few videos that have been published where this abuse was obvious (i.e. having buffs running when the SSS starts allowing them to double dip on those buffs).

Wait...so you're saying the abuse is doing SSS with double buffs? LOLOLOLOLOLOL....

...lol

[Cnidarian]

Wait...so you're saying the abuse is doing SSS with double buffs? LOLOLOLOLOLOL....

...lol

Sadly, it appears reading comprehension fails you horribly. Let me state it again in an easier way for you to understand.

Kit-Kat: SSS already resets cooldowns

You: Exactly. If there was a possible abuse out of this people would have already done it, and would still do it thru SSS if it were implemented in raids.

Me: They are abusing it on SSS, thus the potential for abuse in raids exists.

So yea, having the potential to use some of your burst dps/healing/mitigation buffs twice during the start of a fight can impact a clear or a wipe at sub 5%.