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    Tizzy Tormentor
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    I wish they reset cooldowns when you both enter an instance and when you release from a full party wipe (basically when the boss resets) it would solve a lot of issues with raiding, one of the reasons I didn't like raiding was purely because of cooldown reset, me and my group had like 2 hours to raid, a good chunk of that was waiting for stuff to be back up.

    Basically, it would be an excellent QoL addition with no real drawbacks, maybe it could be exploited to reset long cool-downs on the overworld (like entering an instance with friends and leaving quickly to get CD's back) but come on, I doubt that can be exploited for anything worth a damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    ... (basically when the boss resets) ...
    So.... Everybody buffs up, you send the sacrifice in to start a fight with the boss while everybody else waits outside the arena. He dies, boss resets, cooldowns reset, _AND_ you still have your buffs up?
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    Oooh, shiney...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    So.... Everybody buffs up, you send the sacrifice in to start a fight with the boss while everybody else waits outside the arena. He dies, boss resets, cooldowns reset, _AND_ you still have your buffs up?
    This only apples to A5s of the current raid encounters, everywhere else once you get a complete party wipe, the instance fades to black and resets. And even tehn, the arena locks itself out after 10 seconds, and you have the time of running back, rebufing (or taking a 3 minute res sickness, which is probably more detrimental to party dps).

    When you're looking at a fight like A6s, you want to kill blaster in an X amount of time to beat the enrage timer...which means having cooldowns from the start. If you get a freak wipe because of someone getting caught in mirage or landmines not being taken care of, it's as good as a wipe because you probably won't be meeting the enrage timer on a clearing attempt.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    boss reset or leave combat , like Rice mentioned that could work on A6s but just the 1 boss..., because after that u are in combat until kill all the bosses...or wipe.
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 04-27-2016 at 09:09 PM.

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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    So.... Everybody buffs up, you send the sacrifice in to start a fight with the boss while everybody else waits outside the arena. He dies, boss resets, cooldowns reset, _AND_ you still have your buffs up?
    Yes because you're totally going to be able to have that one person die and run all the way back in the 20 seconds raging strikes is still on you.

    People coming up with ways this could be 'exploited' is nothing short of laughable to me.
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    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Yes because you're totally going to be able to have that one person die and run all the way back in the 20 seconds raging strikes is still on you.

    People coming up with ways this could be 'exploited' is nothing short of laughable to me.
    not that i agree with her, but it is entirely possible, there is almost always a checkpoint to the boss after u fight its trash or in the case of some fights you are right at the boss immediately, lets say you get a healer to take off all gear, run in and get easily one shoted, respawn and get immediately protected while gear changing as soon as they respawn. that would eat up at most 5 to 6 seconds if done right.

    its still a silly exploit and it wont do anything but help burst dps, but regardless, it would be very doable.

    Alternativly to prevent this type of exploit, they could remove all benefical abilties on the target as well as reset the cooldowns, which would solve everything that is exploitable about this anyway
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    Last edited by LeeraSorlan; 04-28-2016 at 03:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
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    You might get one or two hits in at most. And that's if the person dying has a fast CPU where they can load and take the shortcut near instantly.

    It's just silly to even bring up. Not even to mention, they could just make it so only people who have died and gone through the respawn loading screen get the cooldown reset...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    You might get one or two hits in at most. And that's if the person dying has a fast CPU where they can load and take the shortcut near instantly.

    It's just silly to even bring up. Not even to mention, they could just make it so only people who have died and gone through the respawn loading screen get the cooldown reset...
    Yes. You have to consider how things will be exploited when proposing changes. Because if it is possible, it will be exploited. One or two hits when buffed is better than none, so it is an advantage. Whether it is worthwhile can be debated.
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    Oooh, shiney...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    not that i agree with her, but it is entirely possible, there is almost always a checkpoint to the boss after u fight its trash or in the case of some fights you are right at the boss immediately, lets say you get a healer to take off all gear, run in and get easily one shoted, respawn and get immediately protected while gear changing as soon as they respawn. that would eat up at most 5 to 6 seconds if done right.
    What scenario is this? All trials have you fighting in a enclosed boss room that if someone aggros the boss, everyone is engaged to the fight. Only a total party wipe would reset it. A1, 2, 3 and 5 doesn't this, but are you honestly saying that they can get one shot'd, return to base, take the short cut, and run back into the boss fight all within 15 seconds (with no mana and TP, mind you). Who is even getting the cooldown reset at this point?

    You can't do this in dungeons because shortcuts do not put you in front of the boss arena, only to where the previous boss was.

    Not to sound rude, but this is an incredibly silly excuse to play devil's advocate with; it doesn't even make sense within the context of the game.
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    Lilli Karani
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    All trials have you fighting in a enclosed boss room that if someone aggros the boss, everyone is engaged to the fight. Only a total party wipe would reset it.
    Not only this. You can't release your character back to the entrance in fight like this after death.
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