This game needs better DPS feedback

[Aquaslash]

Just gonna leave this here

..or those annoying positional atks on monk/drg/nin <,< (why we have that anyway...?)

I also dont have that dragoon aura up for the whole time o_O that aura dont boost anything on stats, and those 4th cambo atks are pretty much weak! Only usefull for those 2 Jump atks. ...wich have same CD as the dragoon aura.

GTFO my class you lazy scrub REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN]

Just gonna leave this here

LOLOL, this is too good.

[Bobkitty]

Unless you're doing Savage or some new extreme primal, the game doesn't really punish you for bad DPS rates (except for slower runs, which isn't very noticeable to the person underperforming anyway, unless everyone in the group doing the same). You kill the boss, you roll your loot and your chances of getting an item is the same as everyone else, then you exit/repeat, so you aren't given any motivation or indicator that you should be doing better until you step into Savage etc.

There is the SSS thing, but it seems like only people who are getting into raiding would use it.

[raela]

I was in a sephirot ex clear party the other day, and one of the nin's commented that he was jealous of the rest of our dps. Checked his gear, mix of 220s/230s, 230 weapon, no melds.. So nothing overtly bad. Mention of DPS made me assume he ran a parser.

Friend checked his own after, and said nin was about 400 dps under the other 3 of us. He had glaring rotation errors (and never used his own trick attack). Having the tools (and internet to search rotations) won't always save you.

..we didn't clear anyway. hopefully he compared his data to the other nin for some tips. Parsers might be nice to have in game for some reasons, but it won't save everyone.

[Kaurie]

I was in a sephirot ex clear party the other day, and one of the nin's commented that he was jealous of the rest of our dps. Checked his gear, mix of 220s/230s, 230 weapon, no melds.. So nothing overtly bad. Mention of DPS made me assume he ran a parser.

Friend checked his own after, and said nin was about 400 dps under the other 3 of us. He had glaring rotation errors (and never used his own trick attack). Having the tools (and internet to search rotations) won't always save you.

..we didn't clear anyway. hopefully he compared his data to the other nin for some tips. Parsers might be nice to have in game for some reasons, but it won't save everyone.

I think you are misunderstanding the point. Parsers don't save people, they allow people to see they are underperforming. In your story, this is precisely what happened - that NIN saw that he was really low and now knows he needs to work on it. It's not a magical thing that saves people from being bad, it's a tool to help people understand their performance.

If a parser was made available at low levels to everyone, they'd get this feedback as they leveled up (the time when you are learning how to play), and then create positive DPS habits.

[FoxyAreku]

I was in a sephirot ex clear party the other day, and one of the nin's commented that he was jealous of the rest of our dps. Checked his gear, mix of 220s/230s, 230 weapon, no melds.. So nothing overtly bad. Mention of DPS made me assume he ran a parser.

Friend checked his own after, and said nin was about 400 dps under the other 3 of us. He had glaring rotation errors (and never used his own trick attack). Having the tools (and internet to search rotations) won't always save you.

..we didn't clear anyway. hopefully he compared his data to the other nin for some tips. Parsers might be nice to have in game for some reasons, but it won't save everyone.

I just want to point out that no one would have probably known how bad that NIN was doing without a parser, and now he probably knows he needs to improve because of it.

[Dyvid]

I was in a sephirot ex clear party the other day, and one of the nin's commented that he was jealous of the rest of our dps. Checked his gear, mix of 220s/230s, 230 weapon, no melds.. So nothing overtly bad. Mention of DPS made me assume he ran a parser.

Friend checked his own after, and said nin was about 400 dps under the other 3 of us. He had glaring rotation errors (and never used his own trick attack). Having the tools (and internet to search rotations) won't always save you.

..we didn't clear anyway. hopefully he compared his data to the other nin for some tips. Parsers might be nice to have in game for some reasons, but it won't save everyone.

I would suspect that NIN was fairly new to the run and didn't know all the mechanics yet. This is the key point people seem to be missing when demanding parsers for all.

SSS is a great tool for letting players know if they have a solid rotation or not, but knowing the fight is key. If you are new and still learning, your dpsing is going to suffer and no parser is going to save you from that. Instead of wondering why someones dps is so low, ask them if they know and understand the fight.

[Kaurie]

I would suspect that NIN was fairly new to the run and didn't know all the mechanics yet. This is the key point people seem to be missing when demanding parsers for all.

Actually that is the main point of why a parser is more useful than SSS. SSS gives you a vacuum DPS number, but that isn't really useful. It's important to know how you perform when you are doing mechanics. As you see this, you can adjust your play and work on your numbers and mechanics simultaneously. Or, as we often do with my static, focus on mechanics. Then once we hit enrage, we start posting numbers and working on that.

[raela]

I would suspect that NIN was fairly new to the run and didn't know all the mechanics yet. This is the key point people seem to be missing when demanding parsers for all.

It was a "know all phases" clear party, and he didn't faceplant any mechanics. Maybe he was still iffy on it, but he was making basic rotation errors and not using all of his skills.

Maybe he only recently picked up the parser though. Hopefully he did look at it to get an idea of how to improve.

[FoxyAreku]

I would suspect that NIN was fairly new to the run and didn't know all the mechanics yet. This is the key point people seem to be missing when demanding parsers for all.

There is no excuse for a ninja to not use trick attack. Ever. Regardless of mechanics, anyway.