Superficial

[Preypacer]

Okay, please work on your presentation. I think you have some good objections, but your delivery needs work and is an eyesore. No offence.

Anyways, some bad analogies you made at the end aside, i'll just focus on how you say that stats and food and graphics and story are all really important. I disagree with this conjecture. And the reason for this is because: sure, to the game, yes, these factors are important. But overhauling these aspects won't solve all the issues with combat and crafting, it won't even solve most of them.

Okay, please don't use words unless you know how to use them properly. No offense.

Nothing in his post is an example of conjecture.

However, ironically enough, much of your OP does qualify as conjecture.

I guess it's hard to see my point if you are set in your ways and want to believe in false hype. But whatever. Suit yourselves i guess.

... says the person has repeatedly demonstrated zero tolerance for any opinion that doesn't resemble their own and has responded with unwarranted hostility and condescension numerous times, in many posts, across many threads.

Quaint.

[Rydin]

Okay, please work on your presentation. I think you have some good objections, but your delivery needs work and is an eyesore. No offence.

Anyways, some bad analogies you made at the end aside, i'll just focus on how you say that stats and food and graphics and story are all really important. I disagree with this conjecture. And the reason for this is because: sure, to the game, yes, these factors are important. But overhauling these aspects won't solve all the issues with combat and crafting, it won't even solve most of them.

I think at heart, the crafting progression system needs a complete overhaul and much less emphasis on RNG.

Presently, the combat system is going back to everquest principles (which historically only arose out of technical limitations), and there is much that needs to be done to cater to contemporary market and overcome the stigma of being a boring game.

I guess it's hard to see my point if you are set in your ways and want to believe in false hype. But whatever. Suit yourselves i guess.

You're right... they should not fix the server lag, revamp the limited graphics engine... make the environments aesthetically pleasing... They should only redo the battle system

In a way you really are right though.. a battle system really is the major defining aspect of a game...
Lag can be fixed, graphics can be improved.... But it's not a matter of better or worse
Its a very subjective area
So if you're not happy with the direction of the battle... Then this probably isn't the game for you
And I don't mean that to be rude... I hate when someone has a critique of the game and everyone jumps on them saying "Just quit"
But if you are truly this unhappy with the direction... then maybe thats the best thing for you

Either way, I am comforted by the fact that you wont be able to post here come December

[ellohwell]

You're right... they should not fix the server lag, revamp the limited graphics engine... make the environments aesthetically pleasing... They should only redo the battle system

In a way you really are right though.. a battle system really is the major defining aspect of a game...
Lag can be fixed, graphics can be improved.... But it's not a matter of better or worse
Its a very subjective area
So if you're not happy with the direction of the battle... Then this probably isn't the game for you
And I don't mean that to be rude... I hate when someone has a critique of the game and everyone jumps on them saying "Just quit"
But if you are truly this unhappy with the direction... then maybe thats the best thing for you

Either way, I am comforted by the fact that you wont be able to post here come December

Im pretty sure I never said i wanted them to focus on combat to the exclusion of everything else. And if I did, well "whoops" because I definitely dont even think that!

From yours and most people's tones, it just seems like you're all just defending this game just for the sake of defending it. Blind faith, they call it. "It will be better! I swear!"

But I am confronted by the obvious possibility that it won't be better, certainly this is the case if only minor adjustments are made to the two most fundamental aspects of the game.

On a brighter note, I just read something about combat classes getting combo skills, but I wonder how integral that will be to combat, and how beneficial it will be gameplay wise too.

If you guys wanted to defend this game, maybe you could have tried citing that feature instead of just saying:

"omg the game is going to rock when V2.0 hits. Go quit you nuub."

[Fieros]

BelgianRofl is that you?

[ellohwell]

BelgianRofl is that you?

is that all you people can ever say...

[Fieros]

I don't know? I just came back after 7 month break and you reminded me of someone.

[Alerith]

is that all you people can ever say...

When it comes to everything you post? Pretty much. I'm honestly a bit surprised you expect anyone to really take you seriously anymore.

[Reaujien]

Personally I...

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[Cendres]

These are not superficial fixes if they were they would be almost done. A revamp as deep as this one is a huge endeavor and the changes and additions proposed may seem like small things but they really are not. When you are changing how things work and how players interact with the game you are changing FUNDAMENTALS.

If you really think this game isn't getting a complete facelift with a makeover and a wardrobe upgrade on top of that, I don't know what to tell you.

[Teakwood]

I think the reason there's nothing more specific in the 2.0 docs about the battle system is that that's their focus of 1.20 through 1.23, aside from adding one-time-only content. By the time 2.0 is gearing up to release I think they intend to have already revamped their battle system.

Twelve only know what they're going to do with crafting, but I'm not holding my breath.