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[Wynn]

Did they not just do a substantial crafting revamp with the other half coming in 1.21?

I called it when I said they would make these changes and still people wouldn't be happy while real crafters get the shaft on some half baked system. And here we are. Surprise!

Crafting is a grind no matter what game you play. Leave it alone. You people did enough damage already.

[Dreamer]

Did they not just do a substantial crafting revamp with the other half coming in 1.21?

They changed some recipes, except for the two DoH classes that needed it the most. That's an update, not a revamp.

I called it when I said they would make these changes and still people wouldn't be happy while real crafters get the shaft on some half baked system. And here we are. Surprise!

Congratulations?

Crafting is a grind no matter what game you play. Leave it alone. You people did enough damage already.

No, it isn't. Go play with Vanguard or EQ2's crafting system. They're just as engaging as our system here but they actually manage to be somewhat fun as well. And if something is fun, it isn't a grind.

[ellohwell]

Did they not just do a substantial crafting revamp with the other half coming in 1.21?

I called it when I said they would make these changes and still people wouldn't be happy while real crafters get the shaft on some half baked system. And here we are. Surprise!

Crafting is a grind no matter what game you play. Leave it alone. You people did enough damage already.

There are huge issues with crafting outside of just the grind

Materia and HQ crafting are almost entirely skill-less grinds, and this becomes more true as the dev team intend to make HQ crafting a guaranteed success.

There is absolutely no gameplay outside of grinding and doing leves (now that the guild treatise traits have no bearing on any recipes and the market system is becoming automated).

Beyond some vague statement about crafters having some viability in PvP siege situations, there is no improvements coming to this system. And in fact the simplifcations have probably only served to make this aspect of the game worse, as you said.