Superficial

[ellohwell]

Before I begin, I just want to say that I think that most of the concepts for Version 2.0 look good. But that's the problem. It only looks good.

When you think about it, 90% of the gameplay is the combat system and the crafting system. The quests and the environments (i.e. the other 10%) merely provide the substrate for that experience. In terms of fractions, most of the game will still be the "same old same old" . . . won't it?

Won't we just be doing the same stuff as always, but with a different backdrop (and the ability to jump up and down)?

I guess my point is, the concepts all look like improvements (cartooniness notwithstanding), but is it really enough? The combat system and crafting systems have a long way to go before they can really be deemed engaging.

I submit to you that the combat systems and crafting systems are not yet enthralling enough to guarantee this game's success, and quite frankly, masking it with some pretty pictures and new zones may not be the best way to go.

The game's foundations are what needs most work, right? And yet the only things that seem to be getting extensive work are the superficial aspects of the game.

[minihalcyon]

I disagree. Except the the lagginess and bugginess (which is being addressed in 2.0), I think the combat in FFXIV is some of the most engaging in any MMO I've played. Not to mention that changes to class/job abilities, etc., are ongoing.

My friend Lysias summed up crafting pretty well. "It's a grind, but when you complete an item, it really feels like you've put your sweat and blood into making it." I, too, enjoy this experience.

[Sephrick]

http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Content_EN.pdf

[yukikaze_yanagi]

hmmm
actually..no. The battle sistem is getting revamped. it started in 1.18, continued in 1.19, will continue again in 1.20 with class balancing,will continue again with jobs in 1.21 and maybe more in the patchs after that.The game isn't freezing until 2.0, you know ?

[ellohwell]

http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Content_EN.pdf

What's your point?

[Sephrick]

What's your point?

That they've said they're going to do what you said they should do. Just some suggested reading.

[Aistaraina]

http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Content_EN.pdf

What's your point?

Read link.

And yet the only things that seem to be getting extensive work are the superficial aspects of the game.

Then read your quote again.

Point is. You're wrong.

[Sephrick]

Edit: misread

[Alerith]

Troll thread. /sigh

Yar. No surprise there.

[Liminality]

Troll thread. /sigh

It only took post #8 to figure this out? I've lost all faith in humanity. Time to go take a nap.