The entire first blood.

[mucuz]

So basically I have just got to the part of the story where you fight Tioman, and with her connection to Nidhogg it made me wonder - who are the entire first brood? Like I know Nidhogg is a main component of the first brood, along with his sister Tiamet, but has there been any others mentioned? It's fascinating and would be awesome to find out some more details, thanks

[Anonymoose]

Since I can't find the phrase "first blood" in Heavensward content, I'm going to guess you meant "first brood".

The First Brood refers to Midgardsormr's children - the seven great wyrms seen with him on the artwork. I'm going to avoid spoilers since most of the relevant information is gained after your encounter with Tioman. But suffice to say they flew to corners of the world and gave birth to enormous broods of dragons - all the dragons of the world are descended from these seven, as far as we've been told.

Midgardsormr is thus considered the Progenitor - the Father of Dragons.

The names and bare bones information are follows, in no particular order but convenience.

Bahamut
Flew to Meracydia, fathered a great brood alongside Tiamat.
Slain by Allag and resurrected as a primal shade.

Tiamat
Flew to Meracydia, mothered a great brood alongside Bahamut.
You'll meet her later.

Ratatoskr
Stayed in Eorzea. Deceased as of the beginning of the game.
You'll hear more about her later.

Hraesvelgr
Stayed in Eorzea.
You'll hear more about him pretty much right now.

Nidhogg
Stayed in Eorzea. Presently waging a 1,000 year war on Ishgard.
Major antagonist of Heavensward.

UNKNOWN
The sixth Celestial Dragon is named and has a history. It will not be revealed until later.

UNKNOWN
The seventh Celestial Dragon is named and has a history. It will not be revealed until later.



BONUS INFORMATION
Dragons reproduce asexually, which explains Midgardsormr being a single father.
Dragon mates are lifelong spiritual connections, not reproductive ones, which makes Bahamut/Tiamat a little easier to understand.
Tioman is an old and powerful dragon, but not from among the first brood.

[StarDrake]

BONUS INFORMATION
Dragons reproduce asexually, which explains Midgardsormr being a single father.
Dragon mates are lifelong spiritual connections, not reproductive ones, which makes Bahamut/Tiamat a little easier to understand.

Whoa whoa whoa. I thought I was really thorough on the dragon stuff but I somehow missed this entirely. Where does it come up? It'd explain some things, but I thought I'd caught every nugget of info about dragons there was to get.

Also, as far as The Mystery Dragons go, I do suspect they'll be namedropped at least - if not in-game, then in the lorebook. It's also the safest bet in the universe to say that one of them will be Shinryu.

After Heavensward, we probably will be leaving a lot of Dragon Stuff behind us for a little while, though. 4.x is probably going to feature the Garleans heavily.

[Mysterysword]

Also, as far as The Mystery Dragons go, I do suspect they'll be namedropped at least - if not in-game, then in the lorebook. It's also the safest bet in the universe to say that one of them will be Shinryu.

I like to imagine he'll be somewhere in Othard, and going by the title of "Lord Dragon" as he does in After Years. Possibly even being worshipped by a cult. That said, wherever Omega goes, Shinryu is usually following him, so he might also be connected to the Allagans, even if that plot point has already been used.

Apart from that, if dragons reproduce asexually, why then do they still have the concept of mates and consorts (as Tioman being considered Nidhogg's consort)?

[RomildaRayne]

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Dragons are intelligent and clearly have a concept of love and companionship. It's likely that, for them, the reasons behind forming close, romantic bonds are entirely asexual as well.

[mucuz]

Yeah "first brood" not first blood, my bad.

Thanks for the amazing analysis of the dragons within this aspect, I am looking forward to hearing more about the missing dragons as the narrative progresses. "Heavensward" so far has held a much more interesting lore than "A Realm Reborn", and that is no doubt about the dragons that feature.

Do you think the two unnamed dragons will feature in the next two patches - before the third expansion - or as an element of the next expansion?

[Anonymoose]

Do you think the two unnamed dragons will feature in the next two patches - before the third expansion - or as an element of the next expansion?

Shooting from the hip? I think they might get a name drop if things are foreshadowed far enough in advance ... but overall I don't expect to see them all that soon. It all depends on where we're headed and when. General feeling is that we're headed towards Ala Mhigo next, and it seems like a waste to have more Celestial Dragons spent on Eorzea. Are we going anywhere else in that expansion? Or are we waiting until 5.0+? My best guesses for the locations of the other two are Othard and/or (depending on how big it is) Thavnair, but who knows if and/or when we're headed in that direction.

I find it very interesting that Garlemald royal family's insignia is that of a dragon. <...> Surely, there are at least one Celestial dragon in Ilsabard or Othard?

I had a similar thought, though we did basically get confirmation that Garlemald uses dragons because, "Hey, yeah, dragons are totally kickass heraldic beasts." I feel like - between the topical relevance of the Battle of Silvertear Skies and the wars on Ilsabard - it would have come up if one was there... but it's definitely possible. We don't exactly get much water cooler chat with the Garleans.

[KarstenS]

Do you think the two unnamed dragons will feature in the next two patches - before the third expansion - or as an element of the next expansion?

Didn't they announce before the release of Heavensward, that the HV story will handle all of his children?

Currently I don't find an article. But I'm shure they said it.

[Frederick22]

Didn't they announce before the release of Heavensward, that the HV story will handle all of his children?

Currently I don't find an article. But I'm shure they said it.

They talked about 5 dragons so far. But we arent going to know about the 2 remaining on the expansion, maybe ( accorinding to them ) in orther expansions.

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

Didn't they announce before the release of Heavensward, that the HV story will handle all of his children?

Currently I don't find an article. But I'm shure they said it.

They may have said that in the past, I don't know, but it was addressed more recently in this thread with the following:

Q:
Will we hear about the 2 remaining dragons of Midgardsormr's First Brood during the Heavensward story-line, or at all?

A:
The remaining two dragons of the first brood are alive and well...but remain far removed from all the action in Eorzea. Where are they? Why are they there? Why are they not interested in the happenings in Eorzea with their kin? Why don't their kin in Eorzea mention them? All excellent questions...but unfortunately ones we cannot yet give you answers for, as their stories are being saved for future content. So, what does 'future' mean here? Well, I've spoken Oda-san, and I'm sorry to report that there are currently no plans to have either of the wyrms appear in the Heavensward (3.x) story-line. That isn't to say that they won't appear (you never know what Yoshi-P will bring to a future patch brainstorming session), but chances are decent that you won't be hearing about them for some time. However, you never know what sliver of foreshadowing you might find in the help text of an upcoming item or minion (just not in the help text of a 3.2 item or minion).

So, yeah. Probably nothing in 3.x.