Tank behavior in duties, brings lots of ???

[Jamillion]

See, here's the problem. And it IS a problem. If you lose a DPS, no one cares. They're dime a dozen, and easily replaced. If you lose a healer, it's a pain but give it 5 minutes or so and you'll be back on track. Lose a tank... well, you might as well just up and quit.

Tanks are the ephemeral unicorn. They're the fairies at the bottom of the garden. They're that four-leafed clover and that pot o' gold at the end of a rainbow. They're rare these days, and losing one, even an absolutely rubbish one, can ruin the entire experience. Having lost a tank, we waited nearly 30 minutes for a new arrival, and it never came. It would've been quicker to quit and regroup.

So for all those wonderful people saying to just boot the tank, think again. It's never quite that simple.

None of you had friends that would join? That kind of sucks, I get asked to help finish instances occasionally and have had to ask for help myself. Waiting 30 minutes sounds miserable...

[AlphaFox]

Honestly it was the trolling and lack of skill with tanks is what caused me to take it back up in the first place. I think one reason some tanks are so willing to troll is because they know, for some part, that the DPS would not dare kick them for fear of not getting a replacement and going back to waiting outside. So they go on having fun, playing poorly because they feel they are safe. Fresh content you seem to see a lot less trolling because tanks are abundant and wait times are low but once the masses split for that patch your back at the mercy of them. I could be wrong but just my analysis of it.

[Joe_Schmoe]

I'm confused about tank behavior in duties. I like healing, but I have level, for example, gladiator to about 15 or so. I know Flash is used to generate the threat. But, a lot of times I am in duties and the gladiator won't use Flash. At all.

So, I limit my healing as much as I can, but always pull aggro and end up dying. Sometimes, people will say something about it, like, " Can you use flash more?"

The tank replies, "Sure." Then doesn't at all. But, when someone dies they run around the body spamming Flash and laughing.

Etc etc etc. Character limit.

In your case, just try to kick him (harassment). If that fails for some reason, just drop. Don't give the prick the satisfaction. Otherwise,.... maybe try that auto-translate in your chat box? Maybe there's a <Please use: Flash> command in there or something like that (only used auto-translate once, so not sure on this one). That way there's no language barrier in the way.

[Gimorian401]

Please OP. Do not follow the advice given to you in this thread , a tank not using flash, a DPS not playing their rotation well or a healer not healing well is not a bootable offence. Abuse of the Vote Kick feature is something these people can then report you for and you end up getting in more bother than them.

If they are actually harrising your, AFK or Offline, go ahead and kick but poor play is not one of the options, nor is "I think they might be trolling"...

I miss spoke. I meant more of trolling and abusive behavior, not a lack of skill. People need to learn the role and to do that they need to play. A tank not using Flash you shouldn't boot him. A tank not using Flash, suggested to do so, saying yes to it then not doing so to watch a party member die and then use flash over the dead party member that is harassment.

[MugenMugetsu]

You just pwned everyone who said that kicking the tank wasn't ok!!!! The best post in the thread award goes to you! +1000 internetz to you! (Also thanks for the laugh! I appreciate it very much. )

[AnaviAnael]

See, here's the problem. And it IS a problem. If you lose a DPS, no one cares. They're dime a dozen, and easily replaced. If you lose a healer, it's a pain but give it 5 minutes or so and you'll be back on track. Lose a tank... well, you might as well just up and quit.

Tanks are the ephemeral unicorn. They're the fairies at the bottom of the garden. They're that four-leafed clover and that pot o' gold at the end of a rainbow. They're rare these days, and losing one, even an absolutely rubbish one, can ruin the entire experience. Having lost a tank, we waited nearly 30 minutes for a new arrival, and it never came. It would've been quicker to quit and regroup.

So for all those wonderful people saying to just boot the tank, think again. It's never quite that simple.

Personally, I'd still kick them out. I'd rather attempt the rest of the dungeon without the tank than give that person the satisfaction of irritating the party.