Tank behavior in duties, brings lots of ???

[AnduinLynn]

I don't think it's fair to generalize all tanks as the same based on the behavior you've observed; as I and many others have never done this kind of thing. Just luck of the draw as to who you get and what their personalities are, and is most definitely not a "meta".

[Jpec07]

If they weren't using Flash, that's one thing. However, if they let you die and then ran around over your corpse spamming Flash to taunt you, that constitutes harassment, and actually is worthy of the vote kick. And the use of the report feature, too.

Sounds like you've just had some really shite luck, though. Also, if you've only done the first few instances, you can relax in that it should get better as you get higher in level. You can also try forming a party through the party finder, since a tank on your server is going to be much less likely to be a jerk than someone who knows they'll probably never see you again.

I'd offer to run a few things with you, but I'm not on Gilgamesh, alas.

[Gemina]

Hasn't been too common for me, but it has happened. One time, the tank was very receptive. I just asked politely, "Do you have flash? I seem to be pulling a lot of hate." And he responded by saying that he was very nervous as he usually doesn't use DF and groups with his mates. After that, he was casting flash a-plenty. The other time I recall, the tank was called out by our blm for not using flash, and it turned into a battle of egos.

I've noticed that these kinds of things happen when someone who is an elitist high-level comes off very condescending to a new player. So the new player steps up to defend himself, and just gets ugly from there. The other time is when a clearly less experienced player sucks at their job, so they pass off the blame to everyone else telling them they don't know how to play theirs. Those usually result in swift kicks though.

[NebulaRose]

I pretty much agree with everyone else that has said to just "Vote Kick" these people. Also OP, since you're on Gilgamesh, feel free to seek me out for dungeons and I'll help if I'm not busy.

[odintius]

If this ever happens which is rare even if there no reply I generally only heal the DPS and let the tank die usually that get there attention espically if I don't raise them either. Woops forgot I had a raise spell woops forgot you needed healed didn't realize you were part of the party. That if it a real situation of a very bad situation and isn't my first approach only used it as very last option.

[Lemuria]

See, here's the problem. And it IS a problem. If you lose a DPS, no one cares. They're dime a dozen, and easily replaced. If you lose a healer, it's a pain but give it 5 minutes or so and you'll be back on track. Lose a tank... well, you might as well just up and quit.

Tanks are the ephemeral unicorn. They're the fairies at the bottom of the garden. They're that four-leafed clover and that pot o' gold at the end of a rainbow. They're rare these days, and losing one, even an absolutely rubbish one, can ruin the entire experience. Having lost a tank, we waited nearly 30 minutes for a new arrival, and it never came. It would've been quicker to quit and regroup.

So for all those wonderful people saying to just boot the tank, think again. It's never quite that simple.

[Mixae]

I had a Dank knight in amdapor normal who did not use any agro abilities so i was mage tank. and i was dpsing lightly. T_T

[Saccharin]

Please OP. Do not follow the advice given to you in this thread , a tank not using flash, a DPS not playing their rotation well or a healer not healing well is not a bootable offence. Abuse of the Vote Kick feature is something these people can then report you for and you end up getting in more bother than them.

If they are actually harrising your, AFK or Offline, go ahead and kick but poor play is not one of the options, nor is "I think they might be trolling"...

For those who suggest kick. That's a vote kick abuse. You cannot kick someone for not being skilled. That's terrible unfair and can be reported.

Not it's not a reportable offense. 'Play style differences' is a legitimate reason to kick people.

[SecretCrowds]

For those who suggest kick. That's a vote kick abuse. You cannot kick someone for not being skilled. That's terrible unfair and can be reported.

Please OP. Do not follow the advice given to you in this thread , a tank not using flash, a DPS not playing their rotation well or a healer not healing well is not a bootable offence. Abuse of the Vote Kick feature is something these people can then report you for and you end up getting in more bother than them.

If they are actually harrising your, AFK or Offline, go ahead and kick but poor play is not one of the options, nor is "I think they might be trolling"...

And this wasn't the only response they gave. They have repeated several times on the forums and on some live letters regarding kicking for different play-styles.

[WinterLuna]

Let's face it - if you kick someone for what the OP described, even if SE didn't "allow" it, he isn't going to get permanently banned for doing so. The tank wasn't doing his job, end of. He was hindering the duty. The OP is not going to get punished for removing him.