Implementing a PK(PvP) Server

[Kurogaea]

Shes right though, this game is pretty boring and there isn't really anything interesting or fun to do besides Role-play. Open World PvP also won't be implemented. Not because its a bad idea, I think it could be a good idea in 'most older games'.

However, FFXIV has some of the worst PvP Balance I have seen in a long time. So no, that is why it shouldn't be done.


Also.. there would NOT be any PvP, 99% of the game is INSTANCED.

Flying Mounts alone would kill high level PvP..

There isn't really a point to a PvP server, because everyone would just avoid PvP anyways.. lol

First off, PvP classes are actually more balanced then most mmos like Elsword for example.

We already have PvP in instances so what are you talking about. If you mean open world then thats still no excuse as Wizardry Online had instanced dungeons where players can still PvP in them (game is still going in japan too).

Like Sieze, mounts give debuffs when hit slowing them down. Who says flight won't be cancelled when hit.

And finally, who would join a "PvP server" just to avoid PvP. Yeah no. Quit kicking others ideas to the curve just because you don't believe they won't happen. PvP Balance out of the rest of your points is the only reasonable concern for why a PvP server wouldn't work though it can be fixed overtime as it is being now. They'll just have to implement Skills made for that server in particular and buff certain classes. Easier said than done, but it CAN be done.

[YukiMochi]

Shes right though, this game is pretty boring and there isn't really anything interesting or fun to do besides Role-play. Open World PvP also won't be implemented. Not because its a bad idea, I think it could be a good idea in 'most older games'.

However, FFXIV has some of the worst PvP Balance I have seen in a long time. So no, that is why it shouldn't be done.


Also.. there would NOT be any PvP, 99% of the game is INSTANCED.

Flying Mounts alone would kill high level PvP..

There isn't really a point to a PvP server, because everyone would just avoid PvP anyways.. lol

This game is really an instance 99%
map does not have a broad meaning....Japan's server is located in a very closed community
there are no people in the field...
I want to do something with wide map

[Nicobo]

....If you are wanting to fight other players and kill them in the game, then you are playing the wrong game I'm afraid, as FFXIV will never allow that.

But obvioulsy a lot of ppl including YoshiP and the DEV playing the wrong game as FFXIV is very hard selling PvP now. ^^;
WTFeast!

[Nektulos-Tuor]

This game is really an instance 99%
map does not have a broad meaning....Japan's server is located in a very closed community
there are no people in the field...
I want to do something with wide map

Indeed. You are 100% correct in this statement. Games these days do not put much effort in the world itself and lore around the world. I am glad more people are catching up to this.

I wish I could PM you and discuss more, but the forum has no Private Messaging

First off, PvP classes are actually more balanced then most mmos like Elsword for example.

That is a good joke! =3
Never heard of that game, ever. Sounds like 1 of the 1000 pay to win free to play MMOs.

[Zojha]

And finally, who would join a "PvP server" just to avoid PvP.

I can name 3 groups right off the bat:
1. People with illusions about how PvP on PvP servers typically works out
2. People who want to play with RL or old online friends who happen to play on that server
3. People who want open PvP to feel superior, aka gank helpless people without being ganked themselves

[FinaSel]

I wouldn't mind a PK server, but I think it would be fairly unbalanced considering the way each class / job works in the game.

That being said, in other games I've played with PK, there is usually some penalty for PKing someone. The more you PK, the weaker you become and your name visually changes color or something. You know, to make you a target for other players.

One thing I did like about PK was that you get summon your friends to protect you when you want to go do something. There is a sense of apprehension when you go out into the world. A sense of danger. Now being level 60, almost nothing in the game gives me a sense of danger. Very few things keep me on my toes and alert.
But not knowing if another player is hiding behind a corner, waiting to ambush you, keeps you alert.

IF there was to be PK in this game, gathering / crafting classes would have to be excluded.

But, what if they were to implement a PK zone? NOT like Frontlines, where you have to 30 minutes or more to get in and complete an objective. Also, there are really no places to ambush people in Frontlines. Enemy movement is too predictable.
Maybe by playing in the PK zone and killing players, players can receive some points or something (like wolf marks) that could be exchanged for items. Items which are NOT exclusive to PvP, but can also be obtained in other ways, should a player not choose to PvP.

I wonder if something like that would be possible.

[AlphaFox]

Why would you say never.. seems very short sighted. YP talked about PVP in a interview once saying if there was enough demand for this they could consider it, its up to the players really and frankly you dont seem very supportive or sympathetic but meh its the forums.

It's pretty much been said but you need only look at the first two posts and the number of likes to know what the majority is in favor of. Could even make a giant poll and I feel it would still weigh in the same favor. I can't honestly see a PvP server getting much love but from a short group. I may be wrong but just tossing my info in, I know I wouldn't touch it.

[Kurogaea]

I can name 3 groups right off the bat:
1. People with illusions about how PvP on PvP servers typically works out
2. People who want to play with RL or old online friends who happen to play on that server
3. People who want open PvP to feel superior, aka gank helpless people without being ganked themselves

1. Fair enough, though who's to say they won't make the servers accessible to those who haven't had any normal PvP experience first in the Frontlines and Wolvesden or haven't reached a certain level in the game.
2. So why would their friends let them join a server that they know would most likely give them a hard time and would they really be dense enough to not know what they'll be putting themselves into?
3. They're not avoiding PvP, that's still participating.

Still don't see a reason behind taking my one comment and talking about it, not really adding any reasons to why PvP servers is a bad thing for this game. :/

[Kurogaea]

It's pretty much been said but you need only look at the first two posts and the number of likes to know what the majority is in favor of. Could even make a giant poll and I feel it would still weigh in the same favor. I can't honestly see a PvP server getting much love but from a short group. I may be wrong but just tossing my info in, I know I wouldn't touch it.

Doesn't mean anything but some people have their own likes and dislikes. Some will like open world pvp and plenty may not. Good for you if you don't like it.

[silentwindfr]

simply no, the pk server will have no sense, look at the gatherer that will simply victim to be prey on...
this game was not means to be pvp from the start and is better like this, bring pk server will only serve to bring more toxicity than needed. you want to pvp, you have the frontline, the feast and the wolve's den.

pk will recquire a combat system less slow than what we have right now and especially not with jobs that can be crafting and gathering without defense!