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    Slyqc's Avatar
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    Sly Hawkeye
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    Famfrit
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    Bard Lv 60
    @Velhart

    I'm answering the the question for Bard vs MCH damage, not group composition support effect damage, there's a clear trend on FFLogs that MCH pulls 200 more DPS than Bards.
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Slyqc View Post
    @Velhart

    I'm answering the the question for Bard vs MCH damage, not group composition support effect damage, there's a clear trend on FFLogs that MCH pulls 200 more DPS than Bards.
    I was rambling on, not necessarily talking to you. But yes, MCH is at an advantage DPS wise right now.
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    Kara Zorel
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Slyqc View Post
    @Velhart

    I'm answering the the question for Bard vs MCH damage, not group composition support effect damage, there's a clear trend on FFLogs that MCH pulls 200 more DPS than Bards.
    Isn't that mostly due to the group composition support effect damage though? It's self buffing which is further compounded by group composition buffs, something AFAIK the bard doesn't get to take advantage of.
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    Kara Zorel
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanmerreborn View Post
    Isn't that mostly due to the group composition support effect damage though? It's self buffing which is further compounded by group composition buffs, something AFAIK the bard doesn't get to take advantage of.
    To continue due to a lack of edit button on mobile, I wonder why this is the question asked, when instead it should be why is a DRG so much more preferable to a second caster. Honestly that's the gap that should be closed, probably by giving one of them a similar crit buff.

    MCH excels because melee right now are excelling. If there was better choices on the caster side I feel we'd see a bit more split with bard.
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    Sana Cetonis
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 100
    Machinist isn't particularly stronger on a dummy, but their superior mobility, Hypercharge's ease of use, and other benefits really shine through in Midas Savage, while Bard doesn't get many good opportunities to utilize their lone strong point of sustained multi-target damage.
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