Astrologian 51-60 dungeons question

[Lina_teremedes]

I've been leveling Astrologian, since finishing WHM first of all jobs and being nearly done with SCH, which I'm growing a little tired with. AST is really enjoyable for me, I like the cards and love the toolkit in general. That said, I'm nearing fifty on AST, and going into HW, I'm curious how I'll be able to create the same windows for DPS time as I did on WHM and SCH.

On WHM, as soon as I had asylum, it was pretty plain how to use it; divine seal, pop regen and asylum on the tank, and until those two effects drop off, I can dot up the trash and nuke to my heart's content, often at least one enemy dying by the end of it so just another drop from CS to regen again meaning I can finish a lot of pulls still dpsing.

SCH, obviously, spends most of the time DPSing. I'd drop CS between pulls, Adlo the tank, and rouse right before the pull, which always minimally gave me time for Shadowflare, and a round of dots with bane, if not having time to broil after that before tending to the tank. Simple enough (and honestly, part of why I'm unimpressed with SCH, at least in light party content, it's sort of fun dpsing most of the time, but...it gets a little stale.)

Astrologian, though...what will I be able to do to create those windows? Are synastry and aspected benefic regen going to be enough to toss a few gravities? Will I need to go as far as popping into nocturnal between pulls to shield the tank, THEN regen them and go into dps? I know AST dps (at least seems) to be lower than the other two, but I still like maximizing my uptime.

[ashwich]

leveling really depends on the level of squish your tank has. I remember being able to squeeze in dots pretty easily. Bosses are pretty much fine too.

It gets better even on larger pulls at 60. because you can load up a whooping 45 seconds + long HoT (that tick for almost 5k in my shitty ilvl200 astro gear), and just unload gravity.

[Rongway]

You can put up shields if you have time, but if you're with a fast tank, it can be risky. If you have a current regen on the tank from the previous pull and he doesn't cancel it before the next pull, he can lock you into Nocturnal and your nuke time will plummet.

The AST Fabulosity Combo is some variation of
Synastry (Lv50), Aspected Benefic, Aspected Helios, Collective Unconscious (Lv58), AoE Balance/Arrow, Luminiferous Aether, Celestial Opposition (Lv60), Time Dilation (Lv56) on the tank, Cleric Stance, spam Gravity (Lv52) until all the things die. It's a whole lot of overhealing, but you will be forgiven and even commended for being glorious.

When all those things are on cooldown, there's the "less absurdly overheally but still good"
Aspected Benefic, Cleric Stance, Gravity until the tank is below 50%, (deactivate Cleric Stance, use Essential Dignity, cast Aspected Benefic Again, reactivate Cleric Stance) all in one GCD, resume Gravity spam. Maybe throw out an Aspected Helios if the tank still needs just a little bit more HoT.

[Yhisa]

The AST Fabulosity Combo is some variation of
Synastry (Lv50), Aspected Benefic, Aspected Helios, Collective Unconscious (Lv58), AoE Balance/Arrow, Luminiferous Aether, Celestial Opposition (Lv60), Time Dilation (Lv56) on the tank, Cleric Stance, spam Gravity (Lv52) until all the things die. It's a whole lot of overhealing, but you will be forgiven and even commended for being glorious.

Eww AoE balance/arrow in 4man content??? That just a waste >.> u need to learn the 3 card trick im going to list 3 things how to get 3 cards up on players and let u try and work it out

-extend
-spear
-time dialation

These are the only hints im giving how u can get 3 cards up on 3 different players without spoiling how to do it

[Yhisa]

Cant edit due to mobile

Forgot its 4 so add this to the list too

-celestrial opposition

[Zari]

well I wouldnt say to synastry with just aspected benefic. You will want to aspected helios as well. When you get CU you can add that on for even more regen on huge pulls. The tank's hp just will hardly drop

[Yhisa]

leveling really depends on the level of squish your tank has. I remember being able to squeeze in dots pretty easily. Bosses are pretty much fine too.

It gets better even on larger pulls at 60. because you can load up a whooping 45 seconds + long HoT (that tick for almost 5k in my shitty ilvl200 astro gear), and just unload gravity.

Tbh work this out.... Bole + mega hot on tank (6k tick every 3sec). Tank still dying .... U can be the best AST in the whole world, but it litterally comes down to how good ur tank is and his footwork/cooldown usage

So to OP not everything is the healer fault majority its the tanks fault could be bad gear, not using cooldowns, bad foot work, this all effects ur healing role, so if ur tank is bad, prepare to be healing WAY more then u should be doing

[Yhisa]

But AST have an extreamly high skill wall tolearn , unlike whm/sch they easy mode, AST is about using ur "kit" to extend HoTs / buffs or for self gain to increase dps in AoE with no cost ,

AST is not a go to healer for new players and requires a brain to play it in terms of easy to hard healer it goes WHM > SCH > AST in terms of difficulty , Also AST does not play the same as WHM/SCH which is a misconception made by the player base, yeah we have shields/Hots but we have a completely different playstyle

Time dialation is ur friend so is celestrial opposition
Synasty is ur holycrap button and can heal 2 players (casts only)
Collective unconcious is not just for reducing damage
Comburst 1/2 are strong when passed around
Gravity is nice with aether manipulation or with lightspeed (combo trick)

All i can say is AST rely on combos with cooldowns once u know these ast is actually the strongest healer around

[Oohlalaheals]

It depends on the tank, if I'm comfortable with the tank I will stack my regens on, then pop into cleric stance, hit lightspeed and blast out a few gravity's or Malefic II's. Remember that you are also adding to the dps with buffs, I personally try to stack it so my buffs are AoE balance, arrow, or spear as much as possible- in dungeons especially where I know I wont really need things like Bole or Ewer as much

[Ghishlain]

You will definitely be able to create those windows its just a matter of using your cooldowns that are suitable for the dungeon. Asylum + Divine Seal Regen is in the same vein as Synastry + Aspected Benefic + Aspected Helios + Collective Unconciousness + Time Dilation for maximum healing up time at minimal GCDs to the AST. Of course that's a lot of abilities / spells up there to go through so you'll be able to reduce that down depending on the pull and your and your tank's gear score. Like how you can split WHM kit as Asylum + Regen and Divine Seal + Regen on two separate pulls, you can do Collective Unconciousness + Aspected Benefic + Time Dilation on one pull and then Synastry + Apected Benefic + Aspected Helios on another.

Just a matter of getting used to the kit. It's similar to WHM but with enough differences to make you think how you can pull off certain things with the toolkit given.

Gravity is arguably better than Holy for AoE DPS because if you super stack HoTs, there's no need to Stun anything and then Gravity basically becomes "Holy that costs 20% less MP".

Of course, like everything else healing related - it's situational. If you have a squishy / unskilled tank or overbearing / impatient DPS, your windows will obviously be a lot less frequent and those facts are true no matter which healer you're playing.