Parry: How would you improve it?

[MagiusNecros]

Im not sure how I feel about parrying magic attacks. It sounds nice but that would put PLD behind yet again. Also we deal magic damage and I wouldn't want my enemies parrying any of my attacks.( DA AD ex..)

I honestly think that there's no chance in hell they could make parry trump Crit/DET/SkSp.

PLD can Block and Parry at the same time based on priority all the time as MT. DRK/WAR do not. If they want DRK to be the antithesis to magic damage and a magekiller then something with them and parry has to change or they will be gimped with a useless stat outside of DD. Especially useless when OT. With WAR it isn't so bad when you have an ability called Auto Parry the skill. And expert use of "Cover" from a PLD.

If anything DRK and WAR are behind when it comes to passive mitigation.

[Kaizencorr]

I'd rather see them drop parry in favor of a counter system. One where the damage countered is based on your determination. Give it a short cool down like blood letter for bards and have it be a proc until it's recast is naturally hit.

For flavor make it also increase enmity so that off tanks have to be cognizant of how they use it.

I'd rather tanking be more reactionary and fluid than what it is now. Hell I'd rather see +enmity and/or +might(def and mdef) than parry.

It can be argued we will never need that 20% mitigation. That's what our cool downs are for.

[ashwich]

I'd rather see them drop parry in favor of a counter system. One where the damage countered is based on your determination. Give it a short cool down like blood letter for bards and have it be a proc until it's recast is naturally hit.

For flavor make it also increase enmity so that off tanks have to be cognizant of how they use it.

I'd rather tanking be more reactionary and fluid than what it is now. Hell I'd rather see +enmity and/or +might(def and mdef) than parry.

It can be argued we will never need that 20% mitigation. That's what our cool downs are for.

This is an interesting point, I'm a fan of active mitigation. give tanks more control on how to reduce incoming damage.
incidentally my least favorite stats is crit, even as a dps. distinction between a good dps and mediocre one should be how they manage their cooldown, how to minimize downtime and optimal rotation, not some magical chance in the air.

[GranZero]

This is an interesting point, I'm a fan of active mitigation. give tanks more control on how to reduce incoming damage.
incidentally my least favorite stats is crit, even as a dps. distinction between a good dps and mediocre one should be how they manage their cooldown, how to minimize downtime and optimal rotation, not some magical chance in the air.

As much as I'd love to lean on turning FF into a skill-based game, I do not foresee it happening soon. There are skilled players who would probably love this idea; taking away the RNG aspect of the game in the form of Crit and Parry. Problem is, there are some less-skilled players who are saved by these same stats: from shields that successfully mitigate tons of damage by a crit Adlo, or a parry that reduced damage down to 10 HP, etc. Taking these away would increase the gap between skilled and non-skilled and may drive an entire player base away. (I'm exaggerating, but I hope my point came across)

[MPNZ]

I think it would be interesting if parry worked differently between magic and physical damage. Like, magic parrying cutting the damage you receive while restoring your MP, and physical parrying by delaying an enemy's auto-attacks.

[Launched]

I'd remove it. It'll always either be too weak to help with mitigation so you ignore it, or so strong that every tank HAS to maximise it which isn't any more interesting than going for DPS now.

[ashwich]

I'd remove it. It'll always either be too weak to help with mitigation so you ignore it, or so strong that every tank HAS to maximise it which isn't any more interesting than going for DPS now.

There will ALWAYS be a stats that every tank maximize. if this is the fact that isn't interesting, there're some major stats overhaul that needs to be done.

The difference is you stack them for a different reason. After a raid night you come back and look at logs and go "look at all the damage I prevented through mitigation" much in the same sense that dps look at how much damage they dealt. It's a kind of satisfaction that your unique role brings. now this doesn't exist. I for one don't feel nearly as accomplished comparing dps to other tanks, it's not even my job.

[SpookyGhost]

Something to consider is that, for every class except healers, Crit > everything else. So even if Parry became as good or better than Crit, Parry would at least be as relevant as Crit currently is.

It'd be nice if we had more than 1 tank stat, though. That would give us some diversity in choice. Unfortunately we're stuck with just the one, at least for the moment.

[FinalWolf]

Passive trait. Reduces amount of damage based on %. No RNG involved.

[MagiusNecros]

Passive trait. Reduces amount of damage based on %. No RNG involved.

And how is Reprisal factored? Always active?