DRG PVP. I'm weak at burst?

[Peacecow]

kk so feast right? This other day I got paired with a gold PLD, silver WHM, and a bronze BRD (I am a bronze DRG currently). So match started out normally, cept 30 seconds into the fight we (us two dps) didn't manage to kill anyone. So tank starts to say "deeps is low orz" and when the match ended, "ugh, always bronze". Anyhow~ since I have only gotten to bronze in this feast I am pretty sure that the tank has a point- my dps isn't enough. So I tried looking up guides.....nope! none for pvp :P So I came here to ask all of you silver, gold and diamonds out there: HOW DO I IMPROVE?

Ah right! Rotation for pvp (burst): HT(internal release, B4B)>TT(Impulse Rush, Life srg,BotD)>FT(Pwr srg, Skewer)>Tier4(Jump, Geirskogul, Drgfire dive)>Impulse drive (Spineshatter, Mercy if can use)>Disembowel>regular pve rotation.

[Morzy]

Hows ur gear? I'm not a DRG but you should be optimizing ur gear to have as much crit and DET as possible. If I recall from someone you need about 401 accuracy to hit ppl in The Feast... So go work that out.


I don't rlly play The Feast much anymore, but as a MNK I don't remember DRG's being much of a issue.. NIN's were scary though and they luved to bind me which sucked.

[BristolRuss]

I'm by no means an expert at PVP (though I seem to do fine). But for starters you want disembowel much earlier in your rotation. Blowing all of your jumps without the piercing debuff is a huge waste.

[Peacecow]

Hows ur gear? I'm not a DRG but you should be optimizing ur gear to have as much crit and DET as possible. If I recall from someone you need about 401 accuracy to hit ppl in The Feast... So go work that out.

Hmmmm since I'm lvl synced, that does help right? or do I have to go all crit/acc n stuff?

I'm by no means an expert at PVP (though I seem to do fine). But for starters you want disembowel much earlier in your rotation. Blowing all of your jumps without the piercing debuff is a huge waste.

So meaning I should exchange my FT combo with my Chaos Thrust combo? Then should I use my impulse rush on the fourth tier combo? or should I use it for the FT combo after the CT combo?

[Morzy]

Hmmmm since I'm lvl synced, that does help right? or do I have to go all crit/acc n stuff?

Yes min maxing gear aboved ilvl 150 to get the most det n crit and still have around 400 accuracy helps.

[xJimmehx]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...A-DPS-Paradigm

Have you seen this yet? Its amazing.

[Peacecow]

Have you seen this yet? Its amazing.

Yes I have, and it has really is amazing and really helped me pve wise. But I don't think it mentioned anything about pvp no?

[JackFross]

For PvP basically all you wanna do is spam all your ogcd skills asap while rolling through a CT rotation.

I tend to pre-pop IR+BL+B4B and lean in with SSD>HT>IDC4 with Impulse Drive sometime before Chaos Thrust, Weapon Throw if they try to flee, DFD used to chase, and only use Jump after a Leg Sweep so they can't escape while you're animation locked. Someone mentioned Disembowel blahblah - it doesn't matter nearly as much in PvP as it does in PvE for your own skills. You need it up there (especially with MCH/BRD behind you) asap, yeah, but you don't need to hold everything until after it's up.

One important thing to note: a single DPS doing good burst on one enemy is very unlikely to kill that enemy in PvP. You need both DPS coordinating efforts to down someone with the healer not CC'd or dead.

[xJimmehx]

Yes I have, and it has really is amazing and really helped me pve wise. But I don't think it mentioned anything about pvp no?

Oh! I see what you mean. So PvE is different from PvP. Sorry, I do not PvP so i just assumed it would be mostly the same as PvE out of ignorance(except with a few new, PvP-only skills).
I forgot monsters dont usually heal and more times than not, have way more Hp than what would allow for a burst to happen. I should probably keep a watch on this thread. I might learn something. xD

[Peacecow]

Snip, very good information

So correct me if I'm wrong, I'm reading from your first sentence "spam.....rolling thru CT rotation" meaning that the FT combo is better left in the dust for feast? or is it still usable? If it is better left untouched, should I use my Life surge on fourth-tier?