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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    I'm going to note here, for the record, that a combination of knockbacks, and good focusing can kill someone even with SP on the field. Using your KBs and a stun properly will fling them out of the field, and give you time to dispatch them. Is it easy? Not really. But if you absolutely must put pressure on them while SP is up, that's really the best way to do it. Otherwise, bring the fight away from the field. There's plenty of arena to fight in where the SP field is out of range.
    I guess then we're going into the discussion of balancing based on solo queue or premades. Since they seem to be balancing based on solo queue that kind of coordination is unheard of. :/. Regardless of how to counter it, the fact that the other two healers don't have it is a huge oversight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    I guess then we're going into the discussion of balancing based on solo queue or premades. Since they seem to be balancing based on solo queue that kind of coordination is unheard of. :/. Regardless of how to counter it, the fact that the other two healers don't have it is a huge oversight
    Honestly, I'm going into this with the knowledge that I can actually do all of that, by myself on a BRD. So long as I get my buffs/DoTs up, and time my Blast Shot and Shadowbind properly... I can dispatch a WHM by flinging them out of their field, and finishing the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Honestly, I'm going into this with the knowledge that I can actually do all of that, by myself on a BRD. So long as I get my buffs/DoTs up, and time my Blast Shot and Shadowbind properly... I can dispatch a WHM by flinging them out of their field, and finishing the job.
    As a bard that's played a day 3 gold WHM no that isn't realistic. Sorry
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    Realistic? Maybe not. Possible? Definitely. Just because you can't personally do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Realistic? Maybe not. Possible? Definitely. Just because you can't personally do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
    You're basically implying you can blast shot a WHM out of sacred prism bind them and solo kill them all in that time before they run back to the prism yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    You're basically implying you can blast shot a WHM out of sacred prism bind them and solo kill them all in that time before they run back to the prism yes?
    Not implying. Telling you that I have done it. Literally, earlier today. If you BRD, you know full well the power full buffed Barrage>EA>Sidewinder>Farshot has. It takes a healer a split second to register the knockback/bind. In that time you're already casting the EA combo. They have to either Esuna, or purify said bind, or try to start spamming heals on themselves. If they purify, no it's not a kill. But if they try another option, the force of that will interrupt their healing, and finish them off. You know this. Any WHM without a shield dies pretty much instantly to our combo. It's a rather obscene amount of damage on an unprotected healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Realistic? Maybe not. Possible? Definitely. Just because you can't personally do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
    Between the latency of knockbacks and the like, you're just as much of a mercy of the WHM player getting back in their circle, assuming you can safely knock them out in the first place and chunk their hp before they run back in.

    That aside though, you always just not fight in their sacred prism. I can't stress it enough to my groups to not fight them when their circle is down.
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