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    The thing is you could be doing something actually fun with your friend - like roleplaying etc. But the game forces you to get your weekly reward (or your friend's reward) this week and so you have to do it this week. If you don't do it, you have no chance to get it later on. So you are just stuck in A7 getting annoyed by that stupid cat and pug groups, while your friend is getting frustrated that you are wasting your time and telling you to stop. Of course you can't do that, so you are stuck there wasting your time in a slowly expanding clouds of frustration with every single lost roll...

    It slightly makes the game less enjoyable, not enough to stop, but slightly less fun - and that is why I said it feels unrewarding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Queue it as a "role in need" to get extra gil everytime you do it
    I always get the tank bonus. But only one person can get that and again it is always there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whythehate View Post
    I'm actually disappointed when I get all my loot from Alex and complete my void ark run, wish there were more weeklys to do.

    I don't plan on doing relic as the 2 jobs that I play have awful ones, in terms of glamour original relics are better.
    What sort of weeklies would you like to see? (XIV probably has more than any other game I can think of)
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    [QUOTE=Archaell;3664833]The thing is you could be doing something actually fun with your friend - like roleplaying etc. But the game forces you to get your weekly reward (or your friend's reward) this week and so you have to do it this week. If you don't do it, you have no chance to get it later on. So you are just stuck in A7 getting annoyed by that stupid cat and pug groups, while your friend is getting frustrated that you are wasting your time and telling you to stop. Of course you can't do that, so you are stuck there wasting your time in a slowly expanding clouds of frustration with every single lost roll...
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    Instead of altering the game, have you tried altering how you play it?

    Wait until your friend is on before you do your M1-4 and than make a PF group together. 'Running M1 until everyone has their drop'. It's 2-8 runs max. (Yeah yeah, people get their own and drop. It happens. But in my experience people tend to stay)
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    Instead of altering the game, have you tried altering how you play it?

    Wait until your friend is on before you do your M1-4 and than make a PF group together. 'Running M1 until everyone has their drop'. It's 2-8 runs max. (Yeah yeah, people get their own and drop. It happens. But in my experience people tend to stay)
    Yeah, that is exactly what I am considering. I have been feeling lately that maybe I should stop using the duty fidner all together. That could make things better.

    I always wait for the friends, unfortunately not all are on at the same time, so you can't really do it all together. Real life schedules and stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post

    I always wait for the friends, unfortunately not all are on at the same time, so you can't really do it all together. Real life schedules and stuff...
    Not much a problem for me. 1 friend and all (that I'd wait for / repeat content endlessly for). It's probably always been the best option though, even if you make a PF yourself. A lot of people feel the same, and you guys may even make a few new friends that would be willing to static a weekly M1-4 quick clear group. Another benefit: You don't need to 2/4/2 it. You can 1/6/1, 2/5/1, or 1/5/2.

    Another option: Each get your daily Dragonskin maps, then run them in duo/groups. You'd probably get 2++ 220 a week from the gil you earn. (Many can be better, also. And I think some can be on par with i230 gears)

    This tier is a lot more broad and less strict than the previous, SE may be learning something about gear progression and stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    Tomestones are always there. These are the basic reward for doing the content. They are not reward for doing content where you already received the real reward.
    Speak for yourself. I'm at 3/5 aether oils for my third relic and have more to do after that so I'll take every tomestone I can get my grubby hands on and I'll like every last one of them. There's always the reward of doing fun stuff with your friends! We typically wait in my FC until we have a full premade then we go steamroll the crap out of Midas Normal and Void Ark. Roulettes we do whenever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Speak for yourself. I'm at 3/5 aether oils for my third relic and have more to do after that so I'll take every tomestone I can get my grubby hands on and I'll like every last one of them.
    It is more about the rate at which you get the tomestones. You need a lot - yes, yet random DF groups are not the place to get good tomes per hour ration... which might be part of the issue. The chores have to be done first, before we can do grinding lol. It is a little bit amusing, but after having bad luck with rng I would have rather been farming Antitower for the tomes again and again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    What sort of weeklies would you like to see? (XIV probably has more than any other game I can think of)
    It might just actually be the lack of challenging content, seph didn't take long to have on farm. I now run that on my alt job for birdie farms still no luck, raids are restricted to when statics are available. So your just left with lackluster rewards that force you into face roll content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whythehate View Post
    It might just actually be the lack of challenging content, seph didn't take long to have on farm. I now run that on my alt job for birdie farms still no luck, raids are restricted to when statics are available. So your just left with lackluster rewards that force you into face roll content.
    I understand. I think the Garuda/Titan/Ifrit was the best weekly this game has ever produced. They were not face-roll at the time, and most importantly? Fun AND rewarding. The game is even too predictable and easy for my casual friends...I think a lot of players are itching for a mix up in 4.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    It is more about the rate at which you get the tomestones. You need a lot - yes, yet random DF groups are not the place to get good tomes per hour ration... which might be part of the issue. The chores have to be done first, before we can do grinding lol. It is a little bit amusing, but after having bad luck with rng I would have rather been farming Antitower for the tomes again and again.
    Repeating the same dungeon over and over is terribly boring, though. Variety is good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    I understand. I think the Garuda/Titan/Ifrit was the best weekly this game has ever produced. They were not face-roll at the time, and most importantly? Fun AND rewarding. The game is even too predictable and easy for my casual friends...I think a lot of players are itching for a mix up in 4.0.
    Primal Focus was definitely one of my favorite weeklies back in the day. I'd like to see something like that again.
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