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  1. #21
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I'm probably opposite of most of you as I don't spend a whole lot of time in dungeons and fates. It is my first time through though, so the MSQ and side quests provide significant exp on their own. And I am currently under the mindset of being so tired of doing the side quests; the side quests to side quests, and the side quests to side quests, to those side quests. However, I would imagine I might miss them when they are no longer a means to gain exp.

    Perhaps SE could just release new quests along with the patches for all level ranges but also include repeatable levequests? Or maybe even a 'quest reset' NPC in a particular area that will allow you do them again, but only after getting one job to 60?
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    Last edited by Gemina; 04-17-2016 at 09:50 AM.

  2. #22
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I really wish I could redo the entire story mode on my main character.
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  3. #23
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Shhhhhhhh.

    We don't talk about timelines and quests. You can cook something for X, but X is now the ex X. But ex X is still the X because X was the X in the time period which you completed the quest even though that time period is long gone, despite you completing it now.
    While you can do content X many times (Titan), the story for content X (gather stuff for dinner before fighting against Titan) you do only once.

    Also ex X always happen after X in the story (You have to defeat the first summon, so the beastmen have a reason to summon a stronger version)
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-17-2016 at 01:38 PM.

  4. #24
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    Vele's Avatar
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    Vele Aeolus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I think I'd like redoing sidequests for all the dialogue I missed out on, when 3.0 dropped I was pressured into hitting 60 as fast as possible for my static so I skipped a lot...
    ...
    but then I think of those moogles in Churning Mists...

    Thinking about it I guess it depends on how it's approached. If you can select any sidequest to repeat as many times as you want and still get full exp from it every time, it could possibly be abused... There's a handful of "talk to this guy that's not really that far away from me" quests, no?
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    Last edited by Vele; 04-17-2016 at 02:37 PM.

  5. #25
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    While you can do content X many times (Titan), the story for content X (gather stuff for dinner before fighting against Titan) you do only once.

    Also ex X always happen after X in the story (You have to defeat the first summon, so the beastmen have a reason to summon a stronger version)
    Pretty much this.
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  6. #26
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodai View Post
    Even if you don't get any rewards. Fates and dungeons get boring and are often times few and far between. Some of my other classes need some love but i dread leveling them up.
    Beastmen Dailies, Leves, Hunts, Challenge Logs. YOu have a variety to level with and yet you only focused on FATES and dungeons. YOu completely ignored Beastmen Dailies which offer you up to 6 quest daily in 3.0 zones to get a decent chunk of xp, Hunts in 3.0 zones which offer you a chunk of xp for dipossing for 15 targets and of course leves which serve as a bite-sized like quest experience which you can store up to 99 and then use them as you please.

    There is no need to "redo" quest because the game already has other methods and "quest" you can redo.
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  7. #27
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    Ayperos Ray
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Also want this too. Leveling by fates and leves is really boring. And I don't want to dungeon if I don't have to. Story ones are fine and not really that hard.
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  8. #28
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    Rama Kagon
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Beastmen Dailies, Leves, Hunts, Challenge Logs. YOu have a variety to level with and yet you only focused on FATES and dungeons. YOu completely ignored Beastmen Dailies which offer you up to 6 quest daily in 3.0 zones to get a decent chunk of xp, Hunts in 3.0 zones which offer you a chunk of xp for dipossing for 15 targets and of course leves which serve as a bite-sized like quest experience which you can store up to 99 and then use them as you please.
    People focus on FATEs and Dungeons because they're the -only- things worth doing for experience. All of those activities you mentioned are either limited (6 dailies? Really?), too time consuming (400k exp from 30 minutes hunting but you can easily can get triple from FATEs: it's about 40-50k exp in less than a minute) and boring (Leves are literally bite sized quests with zero thought process...and take too much time when you can use that time to do Fates. Which gives higher exp reward too). Challenge logs aren't bad but requires all the above activities in the span of a week...again why bother, when you can get the same amount in less than a day and with almost zero effort (except killing your enjoyment)

    So yes, there is variety, but in this case it's quantity over quality: among all these choices only two come up to be the best, which are FATEs and Dungeons. And even then FATEs are becoming less and less productive, especially with the experience discrepancy at each level you get. So dungeons win.

    But just like someone said in this thread, if dps queues were as quick as tanks nobody would even complain.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 04-18-2016 at 02:51 AM.

  9. #29
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    Hihilono Vivilono
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    leves give 25k while azys FATEs give me about 58k+ or something
    25k is only "basic" reward without extras. Generally you get about ~2.2 times more if you do levequest "quickly" and complete side objectives while you also get some extra loot comparing to FATEs. Also, if we're talking about 51+ stuff, Temple Leves (I mean ones that cost 10 allowances) give pretty nice chunk of exp for not too much of effort. Also, "saving" allowances for leveling non-battle classes not worth it if you're already sitting at 100 allowances and juts do nothing with them (and it's generally the thing with "saving" allowances, because leveling non-battle classes is pretty fast thing to do).

    But I also agree that it would be great if we had some extra content in which we could level as efficiently as leves, FATEs and dungeons.
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  10. #30
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    All of those activities you mentioned are either limited (6 dailies? Really?)
    Because the beastmen daily in the HW zones can give you over 100k exp and they only need 2-5 minutes to do
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