Why not nerf relic 80 material grind too?

[ohmRICE]

I used to be vehemently against this grind, but since they added in the Vath and more dungeons it's gotten way more bearable than it was when it first dropped.
((but I still cry if I get Neverreap in a roulette!))

The only issue I still have is the poetics cost for materials only because a majority of the roulettes rain down esoterics on you, but not poetics. Thankfully I have a healer leveled so I can get through queues for level 50 content super fast, but it seems a little unbalanced.

[ToniRomo]

I am going to finish my 2nd one today. It wasn't too hard with the beast tribes and roulettes. It is very time consuming and boring though. I think if they slightly lowered the amount of tomes and currency needed for each item it would be better. Maybe speed it up about 25%. I am guessing they will do that with the next upgrade.

The crafting part is the worst. Since I don't craft there's nothing to it other then giving a couple million gil to people for the items.

[Maero]

Relic has always mean't to be a long grind.
Have some of you not done Relic when atma first came out?
What we have today is nothing, lol

[Berethos]

And the ilevel 230 step didn't add much time on the total needed time on the questline if started at step 1, so the time to complete the quests didn't get longer with 3.2

I would certainly hope it didn't.

My point was that, based on the line of reasoning given by the developers for its current design, that it's actually too long as a step. I'm also aware of when they will likely adjust, and my comments were directed at the idea that it shouldn't be nerfed at all and the reason given for not nerfing it at all.

[JisKing98]

ok honestly if they nerf it, just nerf it by half. instead of 80 just bring it down to 40. so 10 10 10 10. and reduce the number of crafting items by 2. or keep the 80 and remove the need for the crafting items.

[Singularity]

Honestly I find that the solution to getting a relic without the grind is to... not grind it.

When I saw the nature of the i210 step (and also how crappy the secondaries on the SMN relic are) I made the decision not to make any effort specifically directed towards it. All I do is buy a token whenever I have enough poetics/esoterics to do so. Since I'm gaining the tomestones anyway just from doing content to cap lore or farm birds or whatever, it's better than hitting cap isn't it?

I currently have 59 token items just from doing this and I also have enough Vanu whitebones and black copper gil to buy ten more just from doing Vanu & Vath quests for exp; plus almost enough allied seals for a further three, so I'll probably be done by the time I get the fifth oil from the towers quest in two weeks' time.

In short, it's really only a grind if you want it fast.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

In short, it's really only a grind if you want it fast.

No way man, the best way is to spend 4 months complaining on the forums instead of spending 6-8 weeks playing the game casually and getting it the proper way... It makes more sense to spend twice as much time and energy complaining then just doing the quest.

[WinterLuna]

No way man, the best way is to spend 4 months complaining on the forums instead of spending 6-8 weeks playing the game casually and getting it the proper way... It makes more sense to spend twice as much time and energy complaining then just doing the quest.

This is the best paragraph I've seen on the forums.

[Eldevern]

No way man, the best way is to spend 4 months complaining on the forums instead of spending 6-8 weeks playing the game casually and getting it the proper way... It makes more sense to spend twice as much time and energy complaining then just doing the quest.

But... but... complaining IS fun

*I know, the exit is just next *

[Altanas]

Would be more bearable if you crept up in single digits of ilvls as you grinded. So instead of trading in the full 80/80 etc lot of items, you traded in a 1/4 at a time or something. So even doing it casually every few weeks you go up an ilvl or two.

In ARR relic, players who joined late were using sub par ilvl relics towards the end of 2.x