Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
That's kinda my point, there's no other raid otherwise. It's savage and EX trials when it comes to static raiding. That aside though, there being no raid suited for those type of players is what causes end game to bleed like it did in gordias. Normal Mode could have been for that, but instead it's DF-level for a weekly clear to get gear pieces.
To be honest i thought we were talking about going back to raids with Echo, being as you replied to my comment about Echo. But I follow you now, surely if you want to raid and you have no free time you go into these thing expecting this? Raiding is a big time sink, there's not a lot you can do about that. I only raid for 7-10 hours a week (varies week by week) if I had less time than that I wouldn't raid.