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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    I really don't have a problem with groups being able to clear it faster or easier its only the 2nd floor and I only mentioned my progress when talking about having enough time and raiding. My issue with it is the timing, it's far to soon for a nerf and really unfair to all of the groups who are on the Swindler and Vortexer at the moment as they are past the hard bit. Also I really enjoy A6S, although I doubt I will need to leave Cleric Stance now -_-

    Really this should have been a simple nerf, either loose a mine or nerf the Mirages as they were pure rng and probably what caused the most problems in progression.
    Yeah, my static's just started on Swindler but there's times when Blaster just gives us the old middle finger.

    The pure RNG in that fight is about as stupid as pre-nerf T7.
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    jssanderson747's Avatar
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    Sam Lihzeh
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    Really this should have been a simple nerf, either loose a mine or nerf the Mirages as they were pure rng and probably what caused the most problems in progression.
    You're not even wrong. Like, as of today, we've seen as far as the enumeration after snipers, but I didn't necessarily think we'd ever have a problem killing those in time if there were no errors with height. I'm kinda confused why that change was needed. The beta thing definitely seemed unnecessary as well. It was pretty easy to mitigate and only ever really caused issues with tank healing, never party healing.
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    Miyaka Vigiles
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    It would be ironic for all those complaining about the nerfs while not having the kill to still go into A6S this reset an still wipe on it
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    HPDelron's Avatar
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    Duran Felden
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Miyaka_Vigiles View Post
    It would be ironic for all those complaining about the nerfs while not having the kill to still go into A6S this reset an still wipe on it
    It really wouldn't be. While I certainly think changes like these are generally sound and that taking them as personal insults is incredibly unproductive, I can emphasize where these folks are coming from.

    Even if the nerfs don't get them a clear right away, even if they spend another 2 weeks wiping on it they'll know that whenever do they finish that the fight they finished was not the fight they started on. Before the nerfs the question was "Can we beat this?" after the nerfs the question is "Could we have beaten that" and they'll never get a chance to really know. That's true regardless of how things turn out with the new version for them.

    That's a loss and one that's normal to be disappointed about, even if the reasoning & timing behind the nerfs are sound.
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    Last edited by HPDelron; 04-15-2016 at 12:47 AM.

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    Aria Ashford
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Meanwhile, I'm just over here happy that my spells will actually land with my WHM in Expert Roulette now. >.>
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    FabricioRF's Avatar
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    Theodric Bloodfury
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    Meanwhile, I'm just over here happy that my spells will actually land with my WHM in Expert Roulette now. >.>
    So much this.
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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I'll just enjoy more chances for CT music sheets and let everyone else care about raiding. Maybe care a little about PvP but I've never been one to do a lot of it.
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    But when you think about it, thats what you do with every boss fight, you have to make it through the old mechanics to practice the new ones. Outside of running to the next phase it's no different when you think about it.
    Shhhh I know that but most people don't realize it. They only see 4 separate bosses of which they keep wiping on the same 2-3. For some reason it causes people to burn out quicker.
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Shhhh I know that but most people don't realize it. They only see 4 separate bosses of which they keep wiping on the same 2-3. For some reason it causes people to burn out quicker.
    There's a very simple reason for this.
    Taking Ratfinx as an example... It has several phases, but the transitions between them are smooth.
    A6S, each "phase" is very different from the previous. There is no smooth transition from one to another.

    It's very easy to burn out when the transition between "phases" are jerky like with A6S.
    T9 had the same problem imo... the transition between meteor phases and heavensfall and later was not smooth.
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    Last edited by Nekodar; 04-15-2016 at 05:09 AM.

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    Janhyua Yotsuyu
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    There's a very simple reason for this.
    Taking Ratfinx as an example... It has several phases, but the transitions between them are smooth.
    A6S, each "phase" is very different from the previous. There is no smooth transition from one to another.

    It's very easy to burn out when the transition between "phases" are jerky like with A6S.
    T9 had the same problem imo... the transition between meteor phases and heavensfall and later was not smooth.
    But that fight is so epic thou....
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