Thread: Patch 3.26 Discussion

Originally Posted by Morzy

Really didnt expect them to go and nerf it honestly. They let Gordias kill teams but no they go and nerf this so quickly and to be completely honest raiders should have i230 weapon by now with a overall ilvl of 225-230 or more so i cant really see these nerfs being viable ornecessary. Meanwhile teams spent 3 months clearing a3s.

The fact that they didn't nerf A3S and it killed raiding teams and decimated the raiding scene entirely on some servers is exactly why they didn't wait around this time around.

They learned from their mistake and chose not to repeat it.

Originally Posted by Morzy

Really didnt expect them to go and nerf it honestly. They let Gordias kill teams but no they go and nerf this so quickly and to be completely honest raiders should have i230 weapon by now with a overall ilvl of 225-230 or more so i cant really see these nerfs being viable ornecessary. Meanwhile teams spent 3 months clearing a3s.

Honestly if they looked at X%s of players actually doing and clearing such content and only saw a very little chances are they probably agreed and made the content easier. Don't see why people even do it though since there isn't a reward.

Back to Dark Souls 3!

Originally Posted by Morzy

Really didnt expect them to go and nerf it honestly. They let Gordias kill teams but no they go and nerf this so quickly and to be completely honest raiders should have i230 weapon by now with a overall ilvl of 225-230 or more so i cant really see these nerfs being viable ornecessary. Meanwhile teams spent 3 months clearing a3s.

Are you saying that SE should repeat the mistakes of the past then?

Originally Posted by Nekodar

Are you saying that SE should repeat the mistakes of the past then?

Their mistake is having no medium difficulty raid tier

And i dont raid but honestly people this is the inly form of content hardcore players have and you dont decide if these changes are okay. I dont care if you dont raid, have a little more respect and sympathy for your own community.. geez

Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

If they actually gave you a good reward, heck; I would LOVE to do it. However, doing a long stressful job and getting nothing out of it? No thanks.

This is why games like Dark Souls are so fun. Yes, you have really really hard content, but once you beat it; you most likely get something way worth the effort for what you did, it feels good. When you go through all that stress, and get nothing? .... The content's armor isn't even GOOD looking.

The reward isn't anything tangible like gear or mounts and glamour. The reward is the content itself. People don't play Dark Souls to get a good weapon, they play it because it's a challenging and fun game in general.

The excuse of "it's just gonna be outdated later, why bother" is a terrible one. If you don't like the fights then by all means don't do it. But don't blame the lack of reward for not doing it.

Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Who cares? In three-four months better gear will be dropping from far easier content. This isn't a game that rewards you for challenge, so the only reason to do it is Epeen stroking.

If they actually gave you a good reward, heck; I would LOVE to do it. However, doing a long stressful job and getting nothing out of it? No thanks.

What about just enjoying the mechanics of and the feeling of accomplishment that comes from doing something difficult with a team? The best thing about raiding is that feeling of wanting to put in one more attempt because the one you just did was "The last one for tonight" but you wound up making it to the next phase or got 5% closer to down before wipe. The best thing about raiding is the celebration on voice chat when the boss finally goes down. The best thing about raiding is being to poke fun at someone when they slip up and die to some mechanic you had on farm months ago.

The reward is not in whatever meaningless bit of stats and icons that happen to drop, however good or crappy they may be. The loot is a means to an end. The reward is the social engagement that comes from doing the content. The "Epeen stroking" as you put is at best an enjoyable side-benefit when folks start to get all high and mighty about how stupid they think raiding is.

Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I don't care about epeen stroking

I care about being better then everyone else.

Interesting.